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Old 09-20-2010, 09:53 PM
 
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Like I say, 99% of the people in the country never use their guns because they were told never point it at your family. I don't think in the last year there was even 1 case of a crime at someones property not involving other local folks, family or friends. I don't see criminals coming out to the country, I see locals doing the bad deed.
I have to disagree with your logic on the two bolded areas.

Just because country people were taught to never point their weapon at another human being, does not follow that 99% of them never use their guns.

Second, with more than 10 years in the state penitentiary system, you are wrong thinking only locals go out into the country to do crimes. A lot of theft-related crimes are committed in the country, and not just by local folks family or friends. Criminals look for easy opportunity, and it just doesn't follow the logic that is is primarily "locals" committing the crimes.

But then, it is my job to follow the DA Narratives on a daily basis of 100's of offenders doing time, so what you see and what I see on a daily basis are two different matters.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:47 PM
 
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Lots of that does go on in rural areas.

There is a joke that a farmer has so many corn fields he can't drive around and check on them all. Instead he stops at the local coffee shop to get the lowdown on how his corn is doing.

Yup all of rural Amerioca isn't remote areas ( despite the fact that the many posters here live in remote areas)
So true, so very true.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:49 PM
 
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Las even 1ike I say, 99% of the people in the country never use their guns because they were told never point it at your family..........
That may be for many. However, I'm a safety nazi when it comes to firearms. It is a result of both good training and having been a firearms instructor.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:45 PM
 
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But then, it is my job to follow the DA Narratives on a daily basis of 100's of offenders doing time, so what you see and what I see on a daily basis are two different matters.
Well duh! How many people have posted that crimes between neighbors, friends and family are taken care of locally? The cops will be called on Fred the stranger but not on Kenny the punk kid from across the field! The crime may not be reported to the police or formal charges filed, but the crime did happen.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Heading to the NW, 4 sure.
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Where I live as Fire Chief the county would call me to handle "anything" since the sheriff was about 2 hours out or just not available..
Since I had a law enforcement background no problem, mostly minor stuff. But still we need to have law enfocement available within a reasonable time.
If it is serious we just take care of it ourselves!!!
The county taxes just go to the"big" city...
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:23 AM
 
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Where I live as Fire Chief the county would call me to handle "anything" since the sheriff was about 2 hours out or just not available..
Since I had a law enforcement background no problem, mostly minor stuff. But still we need to have law enfocement available within a reasonable time.
If it is serious we just take care of it ourselves!!!
The county taxes just go to the"big" city...

Really?

You have no county courthouse?
You have no county roads?
You have no county employees?

You mentioned a sheriff. Is he a county elected official?

And yet you say ---------The county taxes just go to the big city ?

What pays for the things I listed ?
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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PacificFlights - They have that in Suburban places too - It's called the Gladis Crabits factor. Don't have to be from the Country to have Nebby Neighbors.
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:54 AM
 
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Many people/posters talk about shooting others in self defense.

How many actually have ?

I and 99,999999% have not.
What would you call self defense? Against an animal? A person? A mob? It is quite important to define it.. Many people can pick up a gun to target shoot but can't shoot animals for meat; I have no problem with that. I certainly would not have trouble with defense against coyotes ( yes, we have them or any wild animal). A person? Is it different? Yes, as much as the difference between the target and the deer ( both of which I have no trouble doing). I just hope to God I never need to face the problem. If it comes to that, don't even pick up a gun if you cannot bring yourself to use it. At least learn self defense -- go to a class. Don't make yourself a victim.
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Old 09-27-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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What would you call self defense? Against an animal? A person? A mob? It is quite important to define it.. Many people can pick up a gun to target shoot but can't shoot animals for meat; I have no problem with that. I certainly would not have trouble with defense against coyotes ( yes, we have them or any wild animal). A person? Is it different? Yes, as much as the difference between the target and the deer ( both of which I have no trouble doing). I just hope to God I never need to face the problem. If it comes to that, don't even pick up a gun if you cannot bring yourself to use it. At least learn self defense -- go to a class. Don't make yourself a victim.
Excellent point BT -- if you really don't think that you could use a gun to defend yourself from another person, do NOT get a gun... all you'll do is give the assailant another weapon to use against you. If you have a gun, or any other weapon really, you must be completely willing and able to use it if necessary once it's presence becomes known. Don't carry a weapon and certainly don't draw a weapon unless you are prepared to follow through... brandishing a weapon is NOT a good bluff, there's too much at stake if someone calls you on it.
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:25 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Rural Area Police Services

Let's see,...2 German Shepherd Dogs, a 12 ga pump shotgun, and a .41 mag revolver
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