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Old 03-12-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Everyone I have knopwn who live rural either have left to be closer to medical or died alot earier in life thannormal. Mnay time the avialvilty of advanced medical or time to medeical facities mean life or death ;sadly. Its the reality of chnging health problems as people age.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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so maybe it comes down to a choice between living in an okay type place for a longer time or the place of your dreams for less time.totally subjective of course but I know which I'd chooce.aint nobody gonna live forever.
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:17 AM
 
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Everyone I have knopwn who live rural either have left to be closer to medical or died alot earier in life thannormal. Mnay time the avialvilty of advanced medical or time to medeical facities mean life or death ;sadly. Its the reality of chnging health problems as people age.
Huh?

In rural South Dakota we have a good system in place. The 3 largest cities have medical helicopters that land in most places. If you can get to a hospital and stabalized, they order an airplane that has a flight nurse and a paramedic who are proficient at airway manangement and advanced cardiac life support and whole list of equipment that can get the patient to whichever facility is able. Often within in an hour. Or to the Mayo in 2 hours at the most.

There is also the ability to use technology to review ekg scans lab results images and have a specialist review those findings within minutes.

If they are gone, they are gone before someone can get to them. Not different than being right there in a trauma center.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:52 PM
 
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33 years old. I always liked the small town or no towns. I don't mind visiting the bigger towns.
I've never cared for neighbors, you can't pick your family or your neighbors. Having a place in the country where the nearest neighbor is a few miles, rather than right next door, is more to my liking. I have lived in big cities, the convenience of having more options closer can be appealing, but then there is the downside too. And each person weighs the pro's and cons differently. If I was still in the Air Force, rather than a disabled vet, I might not have the option of living in a rural environment.

I plan to move from Iowa next year. I'm not certain where, but it will be rural, and with about 10 acres around me as a buffer. One day in the city traffic and I'm saying...get me out of here

Zugor, thats cool your neighbors were so kind to help you with your dog. You are lucky to have caring people in the area.
Linicx, I'm very sorry to hear about your wife's conditions. My father was on dialysis for 13 yrs, back before transplants were done with much success, so I understand what you said about nothing else they can do. Best wishes to you both.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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It is a personal choice at any "stage" of life. Some people love the NYC style of life where most of their life is spent eating out and working. They would not trade that for a second, even if it means paying upwards of $2-3,000 per month for 400-600 square foot sh*ithole of apartment.

What you have to be careful about is buying into an image.

The image of quaint rural lifestyle where everything is great and gold. Most of rural America is nice but it also houses a lot of idiots with loud and stinky ATVs that they are willing to ride next to you all day and night. Or you might think you will ride your horse out quietly into the forest but the forest might be full of your loud neighbors who decided to hunt on the same day. You may hate hunting but you have no choice. Rural life can turn sour on you quickly. You may buy a property that you thought will support a garden only to find out that you will need to supplement the soil to the point where a tomato might cost you more than driving to the city and buying one. Or maybe the fact that if your water pump breaks you may be out of water for a few days until it gets fixed. So, it is not all roses. I think most of this never gets mentioned in the mainstream "going back to the land" magazines and books. That's because those are business targeted at an unhappy city-dweller audience who has had it working meaningless jobs and barely making ends meet. If you are the target and you feel like that, the s*it that some of these morons write in "Hobby Farm" or "Mother Earth News" can really get under your skin to the point where you get up feeling suffocated and you go to bed wanting to leave the city and disappear into the forest. What you probably don't know is that most of those articles that start with "The Joneses moved to the rural Idaho farm with their three children four years ago and now they make cheese and have a garden" actually probably translates into "The Joneses had about $800,000 in the bank, spent about $400,000 on a beautiful rural farm and have about $400,000 in the bank now. Properly invested this money generates monthly income which allows the Joneses to play farm and not worry about what happens if they fail".

Now city life sucks but I always think most people who want to go self-sufficient and rural ought to sell all their crap slowly, live a "frontier life: for six months in their city apartment (make food from scratch, no electricity use or very little, grow some veggies on the window sill or balcony, sell their car and learn how to ride a horse etc.) and then decide if the lifestyle is for them. Making stuff from scratch and working on basic things makes your life better even if the stuff you make is "no rocket science". Far too many people are too far removed from how things work.

My $.02
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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Now city life sucks but I always think most people who want to go self-sufficient and rural ought to sell all their crap slowly, live a "frontier life: for six months in their city apartment (make food from scratch, no electricity use or very little, grow some veggies on the window sill or balcony, sell their car and learn how to ride a horse etc.) and then decide if the lifestyle is for them. Making stuff from scratch and working on basic things makes your life better even if the stuff you make is "no rocket science". Far too many people are too far removed from how things work.

My $.02
This is the best idea I've heard in quite awhile. Its great to watch people move out here, buy chickens, goats, pigs, rabbits, a cow, and a pony and be farmers... for about 6 months to a year. Then they sell out and move back to town because they had no idea what they were getting in to. I bet 95% of people these days could not make a loaf of sourdough.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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that may be part of it but I've never wanted to live in a city, even when I was in my 20s. I think it's mostly personality.
I agree. Even as a child, I despised city living. Even after having traveled to some of the greatest cities in the world.
The noise and crowds just rub me the wrong way. Plus there is something very soothing about a pastoral setting.
Ideally, I'd pick a house on the beach somewhere quiet. But for now, living in a small city outside a big one on half an acre of land will do for me.
20 minutes or less to 'nightlife' of the big city.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Everyone I have knopwn who live rural either have left to be closer to medical or died alot earier in life thannormal. Mnay time the avialvilty of advanced medical or time to medeical facities mean life or death ;sadly. Its the reality of chnging health problems as people age.
Um, as an EM physician, I can tell you that too big and crowded a city will also delay response times and times to getting to a hospital.

EMS response time NYC - 16 minutes
EMS response time Dallas - 5 minutes
EMS response time Denton (more rural) - 8 minutes
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:57 PM
 
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Um, as an EM physician, I can tell you that too big and crowded a city will also delay response times and times to getting to a hospital.

EMS response time NYC - 16 minutes
EMS response time Dallas - 5 minutes
EMS response time Denton (more rural) - 8 minutes

This is an excellent point. I would like to add, stress kills people! Being obese kills people. It has been admitted by many that city living is more stressful, and you don't see too many fat farmers! Get rid of some of the causes of death and there ya go...
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