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Old 04-16-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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OK - I have asked this maybe once or twice but I figure I ask again

Requirements: 10+ acres of fertile land, rural, near horseback riding and hiking opportunities (near BLM or forest land), climate: four distinct seasons where each is about the same length. Not too much rain, not too much snow, just average. Land has to be affordable (won't pay more than $50K or so for it...). Does this place exist?

OD
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Old 04-16-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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OK - I have asked this maybe once or twice but I figure I ask again

Requirements: 10+ acres of fertile land, rural, near horseback riding and hiking opportunities (near BLM or forest land), climate: four distinct seasons where each is about the same length. Not too much rain, not too much snow, just average. Land has to be affordable (won't pay more than $50K or so for it...). Does this place exist?

OD
I have 40 acres in Snowflake, AZ 17 miles outside of town. It is backed by State and Federal land.

Welcome to the Town of Snowflake, Arizona!

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Old 04-16-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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I have 40 acres in Snowflake, AZ 17 miles outside of town. It is backed by State and Federal land.

Welcome to the Town of Snowflake, Arizona!

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Hello,

That looks like a nice place - one problem though - the climate data shows snow all the way into April/May and also starting September into October? Is that so?

Thanks!
OD
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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I've looked at land all over the place and I think you need to be more specific. I like Arizona and then I like North Carolina and Tennessee and especially South West New Mexico. There you can get more than 10 acres. So it's all about Location...with your plain wrap budget you may also get a plain wrap community and plain wrap neighbors. You could probably also find what you're looking for right here in Southern California, right now. If you want a paved road, all utilities in place and metered with a street address, now it's gonna get harder. And how far on dirt roads are you willing to drive? How many minutes(or hours) are you willing to drive to get groceries or a pair of high heels? Do you need to wear that type of attire at all? We have relatives all over the country and we've been all those places. Dry heat is definitely more tolerable than humid, fishing is better in the South/East. Eastern Oregon is pretty sleepy yet has its trendy zones. More like 2 seasons though. Coastal North and South Carolina, say Winston-Salem might be what you're talking about but a little humid and there's always tornadoes and hurricane precipitation annually to consider. New Mexico isn't bad if you don't mind being away from things and you don't mind dust storms. You might actually find something in the inland deserts of Southern California right now in such places as Anza, Tehachapi, palmdale, Hesperia, lucerne valley, Yucca Valley. If you were willing to work at pursuing tax auction sales you could certainly find something affordable and tax rates are too high so people aren't paying taxes on quality properties. Good luck.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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I've looked at land all over the place and I think you need to be more specific. I like Arizona and then I like North Carolina and Tennessee and especially South West New Mexico. There you can get more than 10 acres. So it's all about Location...with your plain wrap budget you may also get a plain wrap community and plain wrap neighbors. You could probably also find what you're looking for right here in Southern California, right now. If you want a paved road, all utilities in place and metered with a street address, now it's gonna get harder. And how far on dirt roads are you willing to drive? How many minutes(or hours) are you willing to drive to get groceries or a pair of high heels? Do you need to wear that type of attire at all? We have relatives all over the country and we've been all those places. Dry heat is definitely more tolerable than humid, fishing is better in the South/East. Eastern Oregon is pretty sleepy yet has its trendy zones. More like 2 seasons though. Coastal North and South Carolina, say Winston-Salem might be what you're talking about but a little humid and there's always tornadoes and hurricane precipitation annually to consider. New Mexico isn't bad if you don't mind being away from things and you don't mind dust storms. You might actually find something in the inland deserts of Southern California right now in such places as Anza, Tehachapi, palmdale, Hesperia, lucerne valley, Yucca Valley. If you were willing to work at pursuing tax auction sales you could certainly find something affordable and tax rates are too high so people aren't paying taxes on quality properties. Good luck.
Fair enough. I don't mind being away from the stores. Don't need to wear a suite so long as I have satellite (or other higher speed) Internet. But, the climate requirements remain. We live in South Florida now and don't want the 8 months of hot and humid weather. Lived in Saskatchewan (Canada) too so don't want the 8 months of brutal winter. I want four seasons!

We looked at Silver City (NM) area and liked it but I fear the land around there wont grow anything unless you are right next to a river like in Mimbres. Maybe I am wrong. I don't just want to buy 10+ acres of red dirt - I want to be able to grow enough food so that the majority of my food bill is stuff I simply cannot produce. New Mexico has lots of public land that one can roam, I like that.

Tennessee from what I hear gets hot and humid for 4-5 months - is that true? Same with SC and NC?

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OD
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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Fair enough. I don't mind being away from the stores. Don't need to wear a suite so long as I have satellite (or other higher speed) Internet. But, the climate requirements remain. We live in South Florida now and don't want the 8 months of hot and humid weather. Lived in Saskatchewan (Canada) too so don't want the 8 months of brutal winter. I want four seasons!
Then you need to look at higher elevation - above 3000 ft - like Snowflake, Pine Top, anywhere in Wyoming, North or South Dakota. You will want to avoid the SE USA and most of the Midwest.

Been there, done that and moved on.

I liked AZ-NM, when I lived there, but jobs kept me moving to ND, SD, WY, CO, MT and now that I'm retired, I'm back in the Midwest, but that's another story.

Just because it can snow in September, doesn't always mean it will last for very long. That's what people back East don't understand - western snows - powder we call it - don't last long, are low in humidity - which means it blows away, rather than packing down (as in Bigfork & Kalispell).
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:49 PM
 
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Then you need to look at higher elevation - above 3000 ft - like Snowflake, Pine Top, anywhere in Wyoming, North or South Dakota. You will want to avoid the SE USA and most of the Midwest.

Been there, done that and moved on.

I liked AZ-NM, when I lived there, but jobs kept me moving to ND, SD, WY, CO, MT and now that I'm retired, I'm back in the Midwest, but that's another story.

Just because it can snow in September, doesn't always mean it will last for very long. That's what people back East don't understand - western snows - powder we call it - don't last long, are low in humidity - which means it blows away, rather than packing down (as in Bigfork & Kalispell).
Yes but is the land in these places fertile? As in, can I grow veggies and produce food for myself and my family without spending a fortune on bringing in extra soil? How long is te growing season? Is there enough water to support that and several horses and cows?

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OD
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:12 PM
 
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Yes but is the land in these places fertile? As in, can I grow veggies and produce food for myself and my family without spending a fortune on bringing in extra soil? How long is te growing season? Is there enough water to support that and several horses and cows?

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OD
As far as my land in AZ, yes, you can grow veggies and fruits on my property. I have pinon trees scattered throughout my 40 acres. The snow is not heavy snow. Alot of people live in Snowflake and surrounding areas for clean air. I also have water under my land so that you can have a well and not drill too far down to reach the water.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: central va central me south fl
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Redland in Miami,fl

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Old 04-19-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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Yeah, funny. I already live in South FL and am looking to get away from all the 8 months a year of disgusting heat and humidity that sticks your shirt and pants to your body in 5 minutes after walking out...
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