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Old 09-09-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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ok here is my question...........we are really focused on returning to the land/ being sustainable etc etc...you know the story.......we would also like access to a some progressive/like minded folks since we are raising 2 children. we can find lots of thoose towns scattered all over the country. but they are all expensive for people trying to live simple ......... So....and I guess I am asking for something that folks may not want to share.... but where are places that are actually affordable and meet the above??? (if folks are willing to give up secrets I promise not to write mother earth news about it ) access to the mountains would be great, the closer the better but not a deal breaker if not. A place where land is affordable, we dont want city life but do like culture and access to things like healthy food stores, progressive folks, homeschoolers etc etc........ I am at the point of being open to almost anywhere......not texas to fl on the gulf or anywhere else crazy hot and nowhere crazy crazy cold like minnesota. Just throw it out it you think it might work...
welp, I was going to suggest Missouri, but I don't think it will fit into your requirements culture-wise. There are parts of Colorado that might work. I know the San Luis valley is economical, although there is a water issue. But my understanding is that you can purchase agricultural use permits for water. I am not sure what the regs are on that, however.

There are also places like La Junta, Fruita and Walsenberg Colorado which are not as "scenic" as other areas but they have a good growing season, are more economical to live and are close enough to "mountains" to be able to go on weekends and such.

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Old 09-10-2011, 06:32 PM
 
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forest beekeeper:
At the end of the day it comes down to the roll of government.

(Please note I am NOT talking Republican/Democrat, but liberal/conservative)

Liberals want bigger government, that the Gov take care of them and think the Gov't can 'do it better'.

Conservatives want to be left alone to go to work!
well conservatives want to be left alone until it comes to abortion, or same sex marriage or, or , or, liberals dont want more government they want less big business buying off the government
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:40 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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well conservatives want to be left alone until it comes to abortion, or same sex marriage or, or , or, liberals dont want more government they want less big business buying off the government
Actually,leftists like controlling people,it is their nature.
And the current admin certainly is in bed with big business.

A LOT of conservative(or neo-cons) are busybodies...but then so are leftists when it comes to THEIR pet issues.
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Not on the same page as most
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You could make it in rural Missouri. My husband and I moved to 65 acres in rural Southcentral MO. We are self-proclaimed northeasterners with a liberal bias, who are living in the conservative bible belt in Southcentral MO. It makes no difference. We accept our neighbors for who they are, and they accept us for who we are, even though we are of different political opinions. We are kind people, who are willing to help others, and this is reciprocated. Underlying it all is the golden rule, not the blue rule or the red rule. We do try to stay out of what might turn into inflammatory political discussions...sort of an agree to disagree respectful truce of sorts. Maybe that is not something that you could abide by...may be a deal breaker for you OP. Most people here go to church...we don't. The people we are friends with wish we would (they want us to be saved), but also acknowledge that going to church doesn't necessarily make you a good person.

There are plenty of homeschoolers here, the land and taxes on the land are reasonable, and the growing season is good for sustainable living. People here are frugal, and work hard with what they have been given. In the rural area where we live, there is not an emphasis on keeping up with the Joneses. The emphasis is on family.

The summers are hot and humid, the winters are cold and icy, and the spring and fall always seem too short. There are tornados, but lately no matter where you live, Mother Nature has been flexing her muscles: flooding/earthquakes/drought/etc. The lightening storms are magnificent. Wildflowers are in abundance. There are many different types of birds, including bald eagles, on rare occassions. The air is fresh, the water is clean. There are still gravel roads, and unruly streams that snake their way through the pastures, with tree roots snarled like old pythons, barely holding the eroding banks together. The wild is still here.

The soil in this area is good for growing grass, (which translates into cattle), but you can also have a garden, but will need to improve the soil. Further North in Missouri, there is crop land, if that's your goal. There is an emphasis on freedom here. Freedom from government zoning, permits, etc. It is like a breath of fresh air, after living in NY. We wish we had moved here to raise our kids. Keep an open mind, and good luck finding "your place".
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Old 09-11-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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There is alternative currency here, organized credit clearing systems to avoid money transactions,...
Care to describe "alternative currency" (what it is and how it works)?
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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There is alternative currency here, organized credit clearing systems to avoid money transactions, tons of educational things from organic growers school to alternative building demos etc.....no not the hemp bag (although hemp is very important to our future) but are you gonna knock hemp houses??? I could continue a list 2 pages long. I mean yeah there is lots of people trying too hard and playing a role but there is alot more to it.......You just don't see the real folks walking around downtown shopping.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but that may be hard to find in most rural areas. If you are into non-monetary transactions, that may be in the form of bartering and trading.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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Actually,leftists like controlling people,it is their nature.
And the current admin certainly is in bed with big business.

A LOT of conservative(or neo-cons) are busybodies...but then so are leftists when it comes to THEIR pet issues.
not gonna turn this into political debate ....I was just saying this concept that if it was up to conservatives everyone would wake up and have a good job to go to is BS
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Care to describe "alternative currency" (what it is and how it works)?
Sure there are a bunch around the country......Most famous is probably the Ithaca Hours program. you can also look up LET'S .: Asheville LETS [beta] Home :. + thats the lets program in asheville......not actually a currency like the Ithaca one but similar. LET's programs are all over the country as well Ithaca hours: Ithaca HOUR founder's page
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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not gonna turn this into political debate ....I was just saying this concept that if it was up to conservatives everyone would wake up and have a good job to go to is BS
I believe political persuasion has no bearing on jobs...
Personally I lean libertarian/paleo-conservative.

But yes,lets get back to finding you your 'place in the sun'.

I actually LOVED property searching,would spend hours looking.
Of course no chilluns made it easier for us.

I guess I just didn't put any weight to political persuasion of the people in the area,although the state laws WERE important to me,hence why California would never have been on our list,even though the north of the state seems to be quite lovely.

And weather,weather was one of THE major factors,we don't do winter,especially not when it involves mountains of snow and lasts months on end.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Sure there are a bunch around the country......Most famous is probably the Ithaca Hours program. you can also look up LET'S .: Asheville LETS [beta] Home :. + thats the lets program in asheville......not actually a currency like the Ithaca one but similar. LET's programs are all over the country as well Ithaca hours: Ithaca HOUR founder's page
The Asheville LETS program,how far out of Asheville does it extend?

Is it solely close by or out in to the nether regions like where we live?

Quite interesting and a good idea.
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