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Old 11-18-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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I lived in northern Idaho for awhile in the mid 90s. Not the South, but that is where I found the most naturally self reliant and simple living people I have ever encountered. They called it "pioneer spirit" up there. It was very common to meet people who were 18 or 19 who had gotten married and were building their own houses for their future families. Indoor plumbing was seen as a nice luxury, but not a necessity. Good, sturdy people up there.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Great Lakes region
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. Indoor plumbing was seen as a nice luxury, but not a necessity. Good, sturdy people up there.
That sounds interesting - although the state of Idaho has been getting bad press because of that guy who shot at the white house, and wasn't Ruby Ridge in Idaho? But then, Deliverance was set in Georgia
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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How much freedom is left in upper michigan? I visited there in the late 60's and liked it. Even saw a bear up close and personal while hiking in the woods as a small child. The mines were starting to play out then, and Detroit was sill a place to find good jobs.[/QUOTE]

I've lived in the U.P. for 21 years, in three different areas, and I find that, like most places, things differ vastly in just a few hour's drive. The first area I lived in was Munising, on the Lake Superior shore. I hated it! It's beautiful in the summer but the winters typically get around 300 inches of snow. Decent jobs are nonexistent unless you rive over an hour to Marquette, an the mentality of Munising people as a whole is petty, small-minded, mean-spirited and self-important. By far the best area in the U.P., in my experience, is the extreme western end, near Ironwood. I now live near Escanaba in the southern U.P. and the climate is much milder, but jobs are still nonexistent. So, as for freedom, it depends on the area. If someone doesn't need to earn a living, there are tiny little towns in the middle of nowhere, especially in the Keweenaw Peninsula, where people would leave you pretty much alone to do as you please.
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