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Old 04-03-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Reasons why many rural areas are conservative:
People move there for the "experience" and immediately start to *****.
They ***** about the smells, they ***** about the stores, they ***** about the churches, they ***** about the tractors, they ***** about having to drive to go to a store, and on and on and on.

They want to have "city" amenities in the country when there's no market or, in many cases, desire for those amenities.

Right now where I am, my colleagues on Town Council are getting ready to ban chain link fences and make current owners of them remove the existing fence. Why? Because a very small goup of very loud new people don't like them and the Council members are tired of hearing them *****.

And then the new people wonder why they can't make friends with us long time residents.
You can always go crabing, right ?

 
Old 04-03-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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I wish I knew the answer to that question!

I grew up in a small town and left ASAP.

I do believe that the flavor of small towns will vary depending on where you live. Unfortunately, mine was of the hardcore Bible-thumping variety. In Texas. If a family with kids didn't go to church, that was scandalous! And heaven help the people who were confessed agnostics or atheists! Get ready for a beating ...

People who vote democrat or independent are socialist scum, of course.

There was one guy who I went to high school with who made it known in certain circles that he was gay. One night, he was murdered in his apartment. The police didn't barely bothered with it. After a cursory investigation, the case went cold. That would NOT have happened under any other circumstance.

I'm childfree, and I remember, as a teen, telling some of my school friends that I didn't plan on having children. That was a bad idea. My parents' house was TP'd and my car shoe polished. In that particular town, it was assumed that if you didn't want children, you were "funny that way," if you know what I mean.

Even though I'm totally straight, have spiritual leanings and believe in marriage, I can't imagine what it would be like if my S.O. and I lived in that town today. We'd have no friends and be gossiped about incessantly, especially because he's agnostic. Oh, and vegetarian. That's another big N-O. We also have high levels of education, so most people operate under the assumption that we think we're "better than them" and have the chip on their shoulder to prove it. Um ... well, now that you bring that up ...

I left this little slice of h*ll on earth in the 1990s, so this throw-back-to-the-1950s attitude wasn't so long ago. It still persists today. Whenever I go back to visit my mom (rarely), I'm reminded of just how miserable I was living there to the point of deep, deep depression. The women still sit around and compare the jewelry their husbands buy them, vying for one-upsmanship, which I find totally boring. They still gossip about people behind their backs and criticize anyone who doesn't tow the small town line straight and narrow. But I'm sure they find me boring, too. I have nothing to contribute to such conversations. My world is quite a bit larger than that.

God, I hated it there. What's amazing is that even thought the population grew, this town continued to attract the same type of people. It's still as backa**wards as it was in the 1990s.
And as the song goes "You can't get the Hell out of Texas no matter hard you try" I always thought it was no one can drive from Texarkana to El Paso in one day, I know , I have tried ! I always liked some of the hill country from San Antonio North. Then there WAS Austin the only hold out place with some sanity. From what I hear, that's gone also.... Liberals just don't belong in Texas, period !
 
Old 04-03-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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You can always go crabing, right ?
Funny story about your misspell: Years ago the official Town signs had "No Crabing or Fishing" on them.

Crabbing? Well, yes and no. A lot of the newer residents pitched a fit about it a few years ago and the Town zone for it was restricted to just the pier, even though the entire waterfront is public.

Some of those same residents have gone after the watermen and their offshore crab pots: the floats don't look nice because they're different colors and the boats look too much like work boats (which they are). The boats are too loud (twin Chrysler diesels do tend to have a throaty sound).

Waterfowl huting offshore is now verboten at the close in blind sites and there's a move to go after the seaduckers out at 1000 yards and further.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I have to take back a lot of what I said. Somehow I thought you folks lived in the corn belt. Sorry.
My points still apply, maybe even more so . You do have some oil, right ? Or is the amount these wells pump it costs more to haul it than its worth. Could not some of these wells be fracked ? I am not an oil man, but they are doing it in ND ...real boon time, lots of money to be made for all ! I see a lot of fifth wheel campers headed out there these days, and its not for sight seeing !
I live around cattle ranchers. Cattle ranchers don't get subsidies.

We don't have any oil here. TG. My aunt in Indiana bought a farm on which they discovered oil. She had 3 oil wells - but the regulations would only allow her (well, the oil company) to pump the oil three days a month. With all of the regulations, that changed from year to year, the increasing restrictions/easements/costs, her heirs (my cousins) finally sold the farm at a loss. Um.. no thanks. Besides, considering what fracking does to the earth surface, the water tables, and the aquifers, I don't want any of that near me, either. I like my property just the way it is. Being able to light off a cattle tank in five years thrills me not at all.

Sorry you've had such bad rural experiences, especially with religious overtones. Out here, there are several churches. I drop in on them occasionally, help out with their fund-raisers, etc. None are holy-roller, none preach door to door, or condemn each other or non-church-goers. We all hang out together, help each other out, and don't judge anyone except by their work ethic and/or how they treat others.

Everyone with whom I associate is a conservative - not a neo-Con blatherer, either; a good old fashioned Goldwater-type conservative.

PS Hey, ItsMeFred - we have an elementary school that has 10 rooms, and a high school that has 12! This year's graduating class has a total of 17 students. We even have a gym!
 
Old 04-03-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I see that you're from Nebraska, and that definitely explains our different perspectives on rural life. My sister lived in the western part of that state for a few years and it was quite a bit different than the rural area where we'd grown up.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Funny story about your misspell: Years ago the official Town signs had "No Crabing or Fishing" on them.

Crabbing? Well, yes and no. A lot of the newer residents pitched a fit about it a few years ago and the Town zone for it was restricted to just the pier, even though the entire waterfront is public.

Some of those same residents have gone after the watermen and their offshore crab pots: the floats don't look nice because they're different colors and the boats look too much like work boats (which they are). The boats are too loud (twin Chrysler diesels do tend to have a throaty sound).

Waterfowl huting offshore is now verboten at the close in blind sites and there's a move to go after the seaduckers out at 1000 yards and further.
OK . O' by the way, there are no Chrysler diesels ever made. Dodge ( Ram) uses the Cummins 6.7 Thats as close as i think you can get. Marine engines are quite different. Chrysler was in the boat business long ago, and did make their own engines ( gas) . No connection.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I threw Chrysler in.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 07:47 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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I threw Chrysler in.
Where, in the water? Lol
 
Old 04-03-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Where, in the water? Lol
With the one Chrysler I owned I wanted to submerge it.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Austin
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And as the song goes "You can't get the Hell out of Texas no matter hard you try" I always thought it was no one can drive from Texarkana to El Paso in one day, I know , I have tried ! I always liked some of the hill country from San Antonio North. Then there WAS Austin the only hold out place with some sanity. From what I hear, that's gone also.... Liberals just don't belong in Texas, period !
Well, I'm an Independent. And yes, Austin is slowly becoming more and more conservative as the Sprawl begins to eat up all of our the lush green spaces. Some of those far-flung burbs? Not too much different than living in a small, gossipy town ...
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