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Old 05-09-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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in my town they have under cover deputies in most of the bars and casinos and they contact the deputies out side so when a person leaves who has been drinking they will follow them when they get into their car and arrest them.
And how do you know this? Is this another Urban Legend? Would you rather they get in their cars and drive drunk?
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Rural cops are just going to end up screwing themselves in the long run. They are helping close businesses with their antics while at the same time alienating themselve from the rest of their community.
If you are referring to the police arresting drunk drivers after they leave a bar, you are wrong. The bartenders are at fault for over serving these drunks. And they are legally liable also.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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And how do you know this? Is this another Urban Legend? Would you rather they get in their cars and drive drunk?

In some rural areas, after a certain time, the only people on the road are the police and the people going home from the bars. Not so much anymore, i guess. When I'm at home, I couldn't care less who is out driving around. That's the chance you take when you get in your car.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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And how do you know this? Is this another Urban Legend? Would you rather they get in their cars and drive drunk?
It's a known fact where I live and not secret...btw never said it was right or wrong just mention that it was being done in my town. PS I hope you wake up in a better mood
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:15 AM
 
Location: In a happy place
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In some rural areas, after a certain time, the only people on the road are the police and the people going home from the bars. Not so much anymore, i guess. When I'm at home, I couldn't care less who is out driving around. That's the chance you take when you get in your car.
Would you feel the same way if it was a close friend or family member who got hit by a drunk driver? Or are you the only one who matters in your life? I don't care whether I, personally, am on the road or not, it is illegal to drive while impaired. I would hope that it would be safe for everyone out there.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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How would you feel if you got creamed by a cop car when he was driving a hundred miles an hour while involved in a car chase over a broken headlight? Then how would you feel if you had to pay for your medical bills and new car yourself because that irresponsible cop doesn't have to take any responsibility for hitting you?
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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I believe that happens much less than someone getting hit by a drunk driver. But then, if we all had a little respect and understood that the laws are there for everyone (and yes that includes the person who didn't pull over when signaled for the broken headlight, thus causing the possible chase to begin with), and take responsibility for own own actions, there would be much less to worry about, wouldn't there. I mean, what's the big deal about stopping when a law officer signals you to do so?
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Any cop who drives a hundred miles an hour down the highway chasing someone is endangering as many lives as the person who is getting chased. All they are doing is increasing the chance that an innocent person will get hurt. As far as I'm concerned, the cop is also breaking the law in that situation and should be arrested.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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I find this hard to believe. Statements with generalities like this are just plain silly. You sound like someone that is mad because they were ticketed or arrested for something, and had to pay a fine.
I find it hard to believe that you don't think it's believable. Towns, cities, and municipalities, like corporations, are losing revenue. Tax revenue is down. One of the ways to increase revenue is to hire more officers as unofficial "tax collectors". The was to do this is traditionally traffic fines - "speed traps". It is well documented and can be easliy proven by examinging the ratio of fines/penalites to the budget. AAA actually does or used to maintain a list.
WHen you get certain small towns such as Lawtey and Waldo (in FL) that obtained 40% of its towns revenue from speeding tickets, I think the conclusion is obvious and without dispute. Oklahoma had 8 small towns that got +50% of their revenue from traffic tickets - so bad that the state government had to enact some laws against the overzelous local law enforcement.

AAA takes speed trap warnings to a whole new level - Trucking News

They may not represent every small town, but the represent the trend in enforcement, particularly in the this time of reduced tax revenue.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Any cop who drives a hundred miles an hour down the highway chasing someone is endangering as many lives as the person who is getting chased. All they are doing is increasing the chance that an innocent person will get hurt. As far as I'm concerned, the cop is also breaking the law in that situation and should be arrested.
I agree with you that pursuits need to be reasonable. Some police departments don't even allow pursuits anymore unless it is for a felony. And the supervisor on duty has the authority to call off a pursuit at any time. There are also hands-on driving classes for cops devoted strictly to pursuit driving. Pursuits are very dangerous, and they are not taken lightly by police depts.
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