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Old 04-13-2015, 11:19 PM
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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Originally Posted by netwit View Post
Well, the one I went nose-to-nose with acted very tame, that's for sure. I don't remember if I updated this but I was having a coyote choir regularly for the last couple of years (very different sounding from foxes) and they always sounded like they were at place where the farmyard itself borders the field and where there is tall grass. My main dog can't go there due to me having an underground dog fence that stops him but when I got a new heeler pup, I heard her barking at that area one day and I stopped what I was doing inside the house and opened the door to call her back from there. I didn't actually see anything there at all right then but she was a pup and I didn't want her getting into trouble - and before I opened my mouth to call, a coyote rose out of that grass and was actually in mid-leap. He would have had her if she hadn't stopped right at the moment and was in the process of turning around due to the sound of me opening the door.

So that is when I decided to contact a local hunter. The coyotes were too brave and fearless. And it turned out that the local hunter had been spying on my property through his binoculars for a few years, having spotted the large coyote (probably) or maybe, since he has spotted wolf tracks, a wolf previously. He had been itching to hunt on this property, but hadn't asked because it is well-known that I've never allowed any hunting here.

So if I have to have some of them harvested, then at least I know he is a responsible hunter, and he makes his living off hunting.
.............I'm sure you are aware of the 19 yr old woman (Taylor Mitchell) who was KILLED by two coyotes in Nova Scotia (on the High Line Trail), Oct 28, 2009, as reported by the CBC and a multitude of other sources.

The only good coyote is a dead coyote............(same goes for wolves). Talk to any rancher in Montana who has lost (documented) live stock (calves), new born sheep and chickens by the hundreds!! Domestic (not feral) cats are "high on their menu" as well as little "yippy" dogs.

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Old 05-18-2015, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by newtoks View Post
If it was a wolf, you would know. They are large animals and don't really look or move like a coyote or dog. Coyotes are medium size, leggier, taller and skinnier than a domestic dog. I have seen a lot of coyotes while hiking, they act curious and skittish at the same time. Hard to explain but unmistakable.

Saw the picture, that is a coyote without a doubt.
Agree, the OP's picture was a coyote. Coyotes tend to look bigger than they really are due to their thick fur. The odds of seeing a wolf in the wild are very small so in most places if you see an animal that looks like a wolf or coyote, nearly 100% of the time it will be a coyote. The small exception to this is if you are in a wilderness area that actually has a wolf population, then there's maybe a 1 out of a hundred shot that it's a wolf. If you only see one lone animal, odds are it's a coyote as wolves tend to travel in packs. If you see the animal in an urban/suburban area or near areas with lots of human traffic, chances are virtually 100% that it's a coyote.

For the USA anyway, there are only a few thousand wolves in the wild, almost all of them in only a handful of Northern states. For coyotes, I can't find a good population estimate, but just based on the fact that their territory includes every state except Hawaii and that over 400,000 are killed each year by the government and hunters, the coyote population must be 10 - 20 million or more. So just based on these populations, the odds of the general public having a wolf sighting are very rare, even if they're in a state that has wolves.
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