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Old 12-29-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Not true !

I am "grandfathered in" with my old septic,drain field system but can never obtain a building permit on my farm or sell my farm until the sewer system is updated ( Minnesota)

The new mound system is an evaporate system as the many lines going out are buried quite shallow .

The depth of the many lines is what is different than a an old style leach system ( Minnesota)

I doubt any of us can answer this OP's question unless we know what the requirements are for his area, permits and inspections needed, and the prevailing labor rate.


Giving one's opinions when one lives in an area that has different requirements ( or very soft requirements ) is meaningless to a person who lives in an area that has strict requirements.

Texas------I guess you never read my last 2 paragraphs in your haste to reply
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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What I was debating was Forest Breath's assertion that there was no difference between how his his mound system is designed ( that is illegal) where I live , and the system required here.

Try to keep up with the discussion rather than throwing barbs
Sorry you thought I was throwing barbs, I was just following your lead in bolding, etc. If you were simply trying to explain the difference, why the emphasis on illegal rather than on the actual differences in the systems?
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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It would be an illegal system where I live.

Your system ( field stone,sand) is designed for the liquids to soak into the ground with nothing in place to slow down the downward seepage.

In fact ,using stone and sand aids faster seepage down into the ground.

I mowed the lawn at my daughter's house with a push mower and the ground on top of the mound is way softer than the ground elsewhere due to liquids being near the surface and being evaporated.

Septic systems like forrest beekeeper explained, have been outdated and illegal for over 20 years in many parts of Minnesota.

Illegal in my area, and I live in rural MN.
While it is nice to see that you so enjoy trying to barb me with your use of bolding your illegal activiities, and thereby trying to imply that I did something illegal. I have not done anything illegal.

My mound septic system is completely legal.

Now that I have this mound in place, I am legal and allowed to use composting toilets [which in this area can not be used until after you have a septic system in place].
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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As I have posted about my mound system,it leeches down,does not evaporate,has visquene over pipes.Surface of mound compacted over time.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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As I have posted about my mound system, it leeches down, does not evaporate, has visquene over pipes. Surface of mound compacted over time.
In our mound, I was told that I could choose to lay fabric over the pipes or straw. I choose to use straw.

I wonder why your mound compacted?
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:59 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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It would be an illegal system where I live.

Your system ( field stone,sand) is designed for the liquids to soak into the ground with nothing in place to slow down the downward seepage.

In fact ,using stone and sand aids faster seepage down into the ground.

I mowed the lawn at my daughter's house with a push mower and the ground on top of the mound is way softer than the ground elsewhere due to liquids being near the surface and being evaporated.

Septic systems like forrest beekeeper explained, have been outdated and illegal for over 20 years in many parts of Minnesota.

Illegal in my area, and I live in rural MN.
In use the end result will be the same. I assure you that especially in winter the waste will not be evaporating fast enough (if at all in the coldest parts of winter) to prevent it from soaking into the ground as with any other system. Just unnecessary requirements to gouge you for more money.

Mound systems are only used here when the soil is too shallow to the bedrock, or percs too fast.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: In a happy place
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It sounds like we have some confusion developing because there are Mound septic systems and there are Raised Bed septic systems, each designed for different soil conditions.

Here is a link to a description of Raised Bed Septic systems. Raised Bed Septic Systems - Raised bed or mound septic systems, Effluent Disposal Systems as Components of Alternative Septic Systems - for wet sites, steep sites, rocky sites, limited space, and other difficult site conditions & Onsite Wastewater Di

And here is a link to Septic Mounds. Septic Mound Systems as Components of Alternative Septic Systems

The difference comes about by the type of soil in the area. I'm sure there are variations of each type based on the area.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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In our mound, I was told that I could choose to lay fabric over the pipes or straw. I choose to use straw.

I wonder why your mound compacted?
In our area they are being covered by finely chopped up old tires. I just noticed it last year. It is a good use for old tires.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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Default Septic Tank Cost for 2013?

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I've been quoted $5,600 to replace my septic tank by a local contractor. They would dig a new hole, install a new 1500 gallon tank, connect it to existing leach lines, fill the old tank with dirt, and bury the whole thing. Do you think it's a fair price?

I'm in Southern California.
Have septic tank costs gone up that much? My neighbor paid $12,500 two years ago in the county - Contra Costa County, Northern California - seems high compared to what you paid. Is this a fair price for Northern California?
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:45 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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could be lots of reasons... Blasting?, Location? Regulations, Access, pumping decommission of old (needs to be filled with sreenings or sand AFTER a certified pumping).

I can still buy a concrete 1500 gal tank for under $1,000. I dig a hole and drop it in , then back fill. ~ $800 done deal. (I have my own Dozer and trackhoe (which you can rent for $250-$400 / day) It just takes a few hours.
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