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Old 04-23-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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You better be ready to PROVE the dog was going to bite.
Did you ever stop and think by the time I can PROVE it, It will be too late.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:14 PM
 
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Did you ever stop and think by the time I can PROVE it, It will be too late.
Animal cruelty will get you more than county time in many states.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:32 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Animal cruelty will get you more than county time in many states.

Yep...animals come before humans now days!
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Yep...animals come before humans now days!
You're saying that animal abuse shouldn't be legally punishable, and isn't serious? You do know that serial killers frequently start out with abusing animals, don't you?
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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You're saying that animal abuse shouldn't be legally punishable, and isn't serious? You do know that serial killers frequently start out with abusing animals, don't you?
No, what I am saying...if an animal threatens a human, the human is considered at fault if they retaliate.
I believe the term 'animal abuse' has been misused. Disciplining an animal is not 'abuse'.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Depends on how you discipline. If it's with a baseball bat, it's abuse. No way getting around that.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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In my experience, the same people who defend viscous behavior by their dogs do the same for their kids.

A dog that intimidates inocent people and a teenager who does the same------how lovely-SARC

(and the dog owner and parent will defend "theirs" over and over )
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:32 PM
 
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I think some posters are twisting the words --" discipline" --and " self defense"--in order to further their agenda.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Yes, I agree, but we probably don't think the same posters are doing it.

I have absolutely no problem with discipline of animals OR dogs (in fact, I was "the ogre" amongst our friends when our children were growing up - if a child misbehaved, they'd then look at me to see what I was going to do about it, rather than their parents, most often, and I have a heeler, and those dogs are all about The Rulz and having them and obeying them). No baseball bats were needed in order to teach discipline to either. I DO have a problem with people who clearly are more likely than not to decide that a perfectly friendly animal is a threat as an excuse to hit it with a baseball bat or something being encouraged to ignore the laws that are in place to prevent just that kind of abuse - and abuse it is - by people with clear agendas of their own.

That you are afraid of dogs does not make the dog a threat - it means that you have an irrational fear that paints all of a species with a broad brush. That the dog barks does not make the dog a threat. That you've had a bad experience with a dog in past does not make all dogs a threat. That you want to THINK that a dog barking makes it a threat does not justify abusing an animal. That you want to think it does says a heck of a lot more bad about you than it does about the dog.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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Allot of people have a base ball bat with them or some kind of club.
If you think the dog is going too bite use it.
A base ball bat is discipline???
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