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Old 02-27-2009, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Well, I have to say that I love the smell of a dirty ol' horse, and walking past the feed lot in the nearest town smells so sweet and "fresh" to me, too!

But in Orangeburg, SC, they invited in the big 'chicken farmers' - 3-5000 chickens stuffed wing to wing in quonset huts for acres. The runoff is contaminating the groundwater of the county, and the smell of all of that chicken poop, as well as the dead chickens, is putrifying. The county thought it would help their tax base - and what it has done is destroy the country living and the small farmers thereabouts, by contaminating their drinking water and overrunning their landfills with acres of putrid poop.

Instead of outlawing the smell, they ought to outlaw the politicians who were so eager to grab at a penny that they are costing the taxpayers serious dollars for cleanup; and outlaw the irresponsible operations of the conglomerates that moved there.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Well, I have to say that I love the smell of a dirty ol' horse, and walking past the feed lot in the nearest town smells so sweet and "fresh" to me, too!

But in Orangeburg, SC, they invited in the big 'chicken farmers' - 3-5000 chickens stuffed wing to wing in quonset huts for acres. The runoff is contaminating the groundwater of the county, and the smell of all of that chicken poop, as well as the dead chickens, is putrifying. The county thought it would help their tax base - and what it has done is destroy the country living and the small farmers thereabouts, by contaminating their drinking water and overrunning their landfills with acres of putrid poop.

Instead of outlawing the smell, they ought to outlaw the politicians who were so eager to grab at a penny that they are costing the taxpayers serious dollars for cleanup; and outlaw the irresponsible operations of the conglomerates that moved there.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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But in Orangeburg, SC, they invited in the big 'chicken farmers' - 3-5000 chickens stuffed wing to wing in quonset huts for acres. The runoff is contaminating the groundwater of the county, and the smell of all of that chicken poop, as well as the dead chickens, is putrifying. The county thought it would help their tax base - and what it has done is destroy the country living and the small farmers thereabouts, by contaminating their drinking water and overrunning their landfills with acres of putrid poop.

Instead of outlawing the smell, they ought to outlaw the politicians who were so eager to grab at a penny that they are costing the taxpayers serious dollars for cleanup; and outlaw the irresponsible operations of the conglomerates that moved there.
Yup! I grew up near Orangeburg.

And when the North Carolina hog farmers started getting slight resistance from the NC state legislature, they started to open up shop in South Carolina. The SC state legislature, if I remember correctly, signed some sort of document stating that hog farms weren't welcome in the state.
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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What a crock of sh@t!!!!! There is such thing as "City Limits" or "County Line".........
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:29 PM
 
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What a crock of sh@t!!!!! There is such thing as "City Limits" or "County Line".........
Unfortunately, not any more. The line is getting so blurred and that is why laws such as The Right To Farm Laws have been passed. As long as it is a BMP set forth by the USDA, you can do it. For us dairy farmers it is spreading liquid cow manure. It does smell pretty bad, but as I have said on here a half dozen times, that liquid dairy cow manure is organic matter gold!

It was funny though. Over on a sheep forum I got blasted for having only a few sheep and yet I did a CNMP on them. My acreage to sheep ratio is pretty wide, but I wanted the legal rights under the right to farm act and needed a CNMP to do it. Anyway after I got it done, the first thing the FSA/NRCS asked me was whether or not I got a CNMP for my sheep. I did which allowed me to be a bit higher on the list for help.

CNMP=Comprehensive Nutrient Management Plan which is another way of saying, how much manuer can your land absorb before run off begins

FSA=Farm Service Agency
NRCS=National Resourse Conservation Service
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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In Ca, land parcels need to be "zoned" for specific things. Zoned for business, residential use, ECT.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Well, I have to say that I love the smell of a dirty ol' horse, and walking past the feed lot in the nearest town smells so sweet and "fresh" to me, too!

But in Orangeburg, SC, they invited in the big 'chicken farmers' - 3-5000 chickens stuffed wing to wing in quonset huts for acres. The runoff is contaminating the groundwater of the county, and the smell of all of that chicken poop, as well as the dead chickens, is putrifying. The county thought it would help their tax base - and what it has done is destroy the country living and the small farmers thereabouts, by contaminating their drinking water and overrunning their landfills with acres of putrid poop.

Instead of outlawing the smell, they ought to outlaw the politicians who were so eager to grab at a penny that they are costing the taxpayers serious dollars for cleanup; and outlaw the irresponsible operations of the conglomerates that moved there.
The "Cow Gas Tax" is just being announced(tonite) here in Oklahoma
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:19 PM
 
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Default Well in Vermont they were thinking about taxing cow farts

Yep. Earlier this year the Vermont Legislature was considering a bill to tax the methane gas (farts) released by cows because it contributes to global warming. There was an outcry and I think the bill died.

The environmentalists have been up in arms for years about pollution caused by cow waste. And some subdivisions have sued nearby egg farmers because of the alleged chicken odor. Hog farmers have it even worse.

I chose to build my home up the road from a farm. On some summer nights when the farmer stirs his manure we smell it as we're sitting on our front porch. I won't complain because it was there before we were. It's part of the package just like the pretty views.

People who don't want to smell farms shouldn't move near them.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Yep. Earlier this year the Vermont Legislature was considering a bill to tax the methane gas (farts) released by cows because it contributes to global warming. There was an outcry and I think the bill died.

The environmentalists have been up in arms for years about pollution caused by cow waste. And some subdivisions have sued nearby egg farmers because of the alleged chicken odor. Hog farmers have it even worse.

I chose to build my home up the road from a farm. On some summer nights when the farmer stirs his manure we smell it as we're sitting on our front porch. I won't complain because it was there before we were. It's part of the package just like the pretty views.

People who don't want to smell farms shouldn't move near them.
I agree........Is there a committee to help the farmers? I'd like to join.
I use to be with the Grange, but I can't seem to find one near me here in OK.

The National Grange
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:21 AM
 
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The problem is (at least where I live) that it is not just living next to a farm that is a problem. Since our dairy cow manure is our fertilizer, we have to truck that manure to the fields. With our farthest field being 35 miles away...there is no zoning that can prevent that. In a few weeks it will be "poop truck season" as my daughter calls it and the parade of trucks from the farm to the fields here will go on. That is the price we pay for fertile and highly organic soil unfortunately.
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