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Old 03-21-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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FiveHorses--------I just re-read the original post.
I read nothing about her "feeling better" if she had a fence.
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Old 03-21-2009, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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In some states, if you don't fence off your property, and someone else does and it stays fenced for a specified number of years (varies according to state), then they can claim that property as theirs. Livestock or no livestock.

I know, because our family lost 7 acres of the farm that had been in the family for generations because someone who did know this fenced off those 7 acres on the back of the property in the woods and we didn't know about it until it was too late.

Plus, unless you entirely encircle your property with "No trespassing" signs, potential trespassers won't have any way of knowing when they ARE trespassing.

So there are some very good reasons for fencing (of some kind - doesn't have to be fancy or expensive) that have nothing to do with livestock.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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In our area; most properties are not residences. Most properties are forest and wildlife.

Maybe half of the residences are seasonal only.

So you can go into the woods and travel for great distances on trails going miles without seeing a house. Further without seeing an occupied residence.

Property lines will obviously be crossed. Crossing a property line is fairly obvious. Though few properties here are posted.

Posting property in this area is rare, and is considered to be 'unfriendly'. I posted our property as "Hunting only by permission of the owner", and neighbors have approached me, asking for permission.

If you do not allow any hunting here, it is seen as unfriendly. I have explained that I have goats and sheep, and that I want the deer for myself. But they gladly have my permission to take coyote. If they take a bear or moose I would like a shoulder. And this attitude has been received as friendly.

As for fencing: nobody here fences if they do not have livestock. I have livestock and I have very few fences. Fencing is expensive, my animals never wander so far that they can't return home by sunset, they want their evening grain. So I have no absolute need for fences.

But if you were more urban, more houses and less land, then fencing might be needed. But only to contain livestock.

This state has a massive network of snow sled trails. You can travel the entire length of the state and it's width via snow sled on maintained trails. All of this is done crossing through private properties.

Some of our tourist and remote sites are only accessible in the winter via sled.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Keeping a wooded property line cleared of saplings and brush can be enough to provide an obvious visual indicator of your property line if you don't want or can't afford fences. This also allows you to add a few signs because the line is obvious (sometimes flagged trees or signs alone aren't).

Whether someone has a fence for aesthetic reasons, security reasons, or containment reasons is incidental to whether they really "need" it or not. Any landowner should be conscious of their states laws on "Adverse Possession" -- which is what lets squatters and such take your property from you because they are using it and you haven't told them to stop in time. Even a simple trail to a creek can force a public easement to be permanently attached to your deed which gives any one the right to use that trail for whatever reason they feel like. Same thing goes for the water in that creek in some states if it runs through your property... if someone keeps taking their animals through your property to use "your water" then they can file for rights to that water, and access to it, even though it's technically yours since it's on your land. This might not seem like such a big deal until someone with sick livestock infects the water supply and your animals get sick, too; or there is a drought and you can't water your field downstream because that person has upstream rights to the water.
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