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Old 09-21-2009, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The point is moot, since we don't have basements down here for the most part, and we're not likely to start digging them just because some folks move here from places where they're common and get flabbergasted that things aren't identical to where they came from. And the storm shelter IS underground; it's just not under a house, that was the point, not whether it's underground or not.

Being killed under the house wasn't the issue, either, it was being trapped under the house, which assumes that you weren't killed, that the house fell down on top of the storm shelter's entrance and then you couldn't get out. BIG difference.

Just as an aside, I did see one septic tank that had been pulled out of the ground and moved about mile by the F5 - don't know the circumstances there, but it definitely gave me pause.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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I think being trapped in a storm shelter for a long time if you live in a remote area is an irrational fear.

Most tornados ( yes, even F-5's) do not cut a very wide swath as they move.( rare to see the swath over a quarter or a half mile wide)

Thus ,if you live in a sparsely populated area, there woulsd be few houses for the County Sheriff/rescue squads to check out.

You do have county sheriffs/rescue squads in Texas?

I would be much more concerned if I lived in a bigger city cuz that quarter mile swath would mean many ,many, more houses destroyed that had to be checked for survivors.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The F5 that came through here was a quarter mile wide. The damage, of course, from the winds associated with it that were not a direct part of the tornado itself, covered a wider area (we were 4 miles away and didn't get more than hail and some wind damage then). For that matter, as I said, the straight line winds (which are quite damaging) can necessitate using the storm shelter and, as I pointed out, CAN and DID move things and place them squarely on top of the storm shelter door.

However, I find it interesting that you are so opposed to taking such things into consideration when deciding where to site one's storm shelter. Apparently you also object to my taking personal experience into account when considering where one should be placed, as well - one wonders why that is.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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Me thinks you are paranoid
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Nope, not at all. Just try to take all known factors into account, and apply a little reason, when making decisions like this. Just like with anything else. Since I KNOW from experience that the door to the storm shelter can be blocked due to winds placing debris on it, it would be foolish of me not to take that into consideration.

Disagreeing with you, and noting that from your posts you seem to feel very strongly about someone not doing that, does not constitute paranoia, either.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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However, TexasHorseLady, it is a trade off.

If the #1 consideration for location of a tornado structure is not being blocked in after you survived a tornado, then the location should be in an open field far way from the house.

But, as other posters have pointed out, the further away from the house the shelter is, the less likely you are to be in it when it does hit.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I believe I pointed out that the storm shelter in question is located close enough to the house to be reached pretty quickly - I just this minute timed it and it's less than 20 seconds at a walk (which I wouldn't be doing - I'd be running).

That's a good compromise - easily and quickly reached, but not underneath the house (or in it). Since tornadoes generally give some warning (and when conditions are conducive, we have plenty of warning of that and can keep an eye on things, plus, well, the air just feels different when there's going to be one, I've learned), the risks are pretty easily balanced.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: I love the Ozarks
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Well, My tornado shelter is.....

Getting in my closet,Sitting down,Putting my head between my legs and...

Kissing my ass...
Good-by

Thats it!
Okie
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Not on the same page as most
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Being killed under the house wasn't the issue, either, it was being trapped under the house, which assumes that you weren't killed, that the house fell down on top of the storm shelter's entrance and then you couldn't get out. BIG difference.

Having a house cave in on you is one of my concerns, but being trapped is also.

Just as an aside, I did see one septic tank that had been pulled out of the ground and moved about mile by the F5 - don't know the circumstances there, but it definitely gave me pause.
Mother Nature is not to be messed with. The power of a storm is really unfathomable until you've personally lived through one. I haven't ever been in even a small tornado, less being in an F5, but can tell from your response, Texas Horse Lady's, just how much is has affected you.

[quote=marmac;10849805]I think being trapped in a storm shelter for a long time if you live in a remote area is an irrational fear.

Maybe it's an irrational fear, to be trapped, but maybe being trapped and also injured and unable to get medical attention or communicate the need for medical attention, is very concerning.


I would be much more concerned if I lived in a bigger city cuz that quarter mile swath would mean many ,many, more houses destroyed that had to be checked for survivors.[/QUOTE]

Good point.

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Well, My tornado shelter is.....

Getting in my closet,Sitting down,Putting my head between my legs and...

Kissing my ass...
Good-by

Thats it!
Okie
LOL...hope it never comes to that!
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Sequoyah County USA
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Here's a website to check out. This is the only place I go for my shelters.
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