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Old 12-27-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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See Title 30 Texas Administrative Code Chapter 111.211 related to the rules on Outdoor Burning in Texas
Also see an explained version herer: http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/comm_exe...rg/rg-049.html
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Thanks! I much prefer to go to the original statute when possible. I believe that the weiner roast in this case would fall under the exemption stated in 111.209(4) on-site burning of trees, brush, grass, leaves, branch trimmings, or other plant growth, by the owner of the property or any other person authorized by the owner, and when the material is generated only from that property.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:13 AM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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Thanks! I much prefer to go to the original statute when possible. I believe that the weiner roast in this case would fall under the exemption stated in 111.209(4) on-site burning of trees, brush, grass, leaves, branch trimmings, or other plant growth, by the owner of the property or any other person authorized by the owner, and when the material is generated only from that property.
Gotta watch that non-attainment status though, not sure how far the Dallas non-attainment region stretches. It is probably in the Tyler area early action region though.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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Call the nearest pellet manufacture. Might be able to make pellets for pellet stoves. RP
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:11 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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Too bad you're not in Kentucky. A few gallons of diesel would work wonders and keep all the little critters warm for a night or two.
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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I would cut it all into firewood size rounds then chop it up as fire wood. While chopping you can separate the rotted parts to be ground up and used as mulch and the non rotted parts can be used or sold as firewood.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:21 AM
 
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actually you just might have some good high dollar wood there here in pa if you have logs that have sat out like that in a stack then we call it seasoned
and it is the driest and hardest it is ever going to get the bottom layer is going to be rotted and be fire wood but anything 2 feet and up is going to be real nice for lumber if it is thick enough and more than likely it is since the "pirates" was after it they had someone that wanted to buy it or else they sure as hell wouldn't be trying to wast time cutting firewood, and if anybody says you have to kiln dry it to be any good that is a lie, kiln dried wood is the worse, the only reason they do it is to get the product to market quickly ,many and many years ago before the wood kiln came into use lumber yards would have acres and acres of wood piled up being seasoned for at least 2 - 3 years because that would bring the excess moisture out but leave the right amount in and cause the trees to warp naturally and destress and when you cut a warped tree the lumber is straight and won't warp or won't warp much at all since you cut the lumber out of warped wood already ,that is why you see so much warped lumber at lowe's and home depot the wood never got the chance to destress and since the lumber was cut from the log green and the attempted to dry it out in a kiln, look at all the houses that are 200 years old they were built from lumber that came from trees that were seasoned for a couple years and look at how solid they are yet.
My suggestion to you is see about using this for your own use or sell it to a flooring manufacture or just arrange an auction which is best since seasoned wood is a very high dollar item no matter where you are, and the forestry department should be able to help you out there.
Don't let anybody tell it is junk it is not I have seen too many guys like you get screwed over by people telling them it is only good for firewood and they end giving away or selling thousands of dollars worth of timber for nothingand someone else make the money off it.
Good Luck
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:59 PM
 
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Default East texas pine

Unfortunately, the conditions that grow pine trees fast around here also are ideal for the various crawlies and growies that eat them. Untreated pine in ground contact for 3 years in this climate will literally fall apart in your hands. You can spread it around, but you can't pick it up Even some of the treated stuff is subject to decay after several years.
A couple of advantages of kiln-dried that come to mind is that the heat kills the afore-mentioned infestations which makes for better storage....(fresh cut lumber that is left to air dry here often molds and discolors and if there happen to be bugs in it, they will carry on with their business after the joy ride through the sawmill.) Kiln-drying also "sets" the sap, so you don't have the gooey resin leaking out in hot weather. Objectionable when you have it leaching through drywall and creating stains. The things that like to eat wood have the same requirements for living that we do...moisture, food, proper temperature range, and oxygen. About the only thing we can do is try to poison their food supply or cook 'em.




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actually you just might have some good high dollar wood there here in pa if you have logs that have sat out like that in a stack then we call it seasoned
and it is the driest and hardest it is ever going to get the bottom layer is going to be rotted and be fire wood but anything 2 feet and up is going to be real nice for lumber if it is thick enough and more than likely it is since the "pirates" was after it they had someone that wanted to buy it or else they sure as hell wouldn't be trying to wast time cutting firewood, and if anybody says you have to kiln dry it to be any good that is a lie, kiln dried wood is the worse, the only reason they do it is to get the product to market quickly ,many and many years ago before the wood kiln came into use lumber yards would have acres and acres of wood piled up being seasoned for at least 2 - 3 years because that would bring the excess moisture out but leave the right amount in and cause the trees to warp naturally and destress and when you cut a warped tree the lumber is straight and won't warp or won't warp much at all since you cut the lumber out of warped wood already ,that is why you see so much warped lumber at lowe's and home depot the wood never got the chance to destress and since the lumber was cut from the log green and the attempted to dry it out in a kiln, look at all the houses that are 200 years old they were built from lumber that came from trees that were seasoned for a couple years and look at how solid they are yet.
My suggestion to you is see about using this for your own use or sell it to a flooring manufacture or just arrange an auction which is best since seasoned wood is a very high dollar item no matter where you are, and the forestry department should be able to help you out there.
Don't let anybody tell it is junk it is not I have seen too many guys like you get screwed over by people telling them it is only good for firewood and they end giving away or selling thousands of dollars worth of timber for nothingand someone else make the money off it.
Good Luck
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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Default Kiln-dried versus air-dried

Probably another consideration we could discuss is all the government and insurance mandated requirements that come into play these days.
If we don't use lumber that has received all the various gubmint blessings (rough translation: taxes, permits, and fees) along the way, we might find that the things we build with non-approved lumber might not fit some government agency's idea of what's proper, and we might find that insurance companies might not want to insure our creations, or we might find that people are less willing to buy them if they don't come with
the right documentation and scrutiny from "above."

All that hasn't interfered with the enjoyment and comfort we experience in our current 30's era home that was built when people pretty much did what made sense to them......and it certainly wouldn't prevent me from choosing my own air-dried lumber for the next one.......depending on where you're at and how much "adult" supervision you get, there could be some complications.



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actually you just might have some good high dollar wood there here in pa if you have logs that have sat out like that in a stack then we call it seasoned
and it is the driest and hardest it is ever going to get the bottom layer is going to be rotted and be fire wood but anything 2 feet and up is going to be real nice for lumber if it is thick enough and more than likely it is since the "pirates" was after it they had someone that wanted to buy it or else they sure as hell wouldn't be trying to wast time cutting firewood, and if anybody says you have to kiln dry it to be any good that is a lie, kiln dried wood is the worse, the only reason they do it is to get the product to market quickly ,many and many years ago before the wood kiln came into use lumber yards would have acres and acres of wood piled up being seasoned for at least 2 - 3 years because that would bring the excess moisture out but leave the right amount in and cause the trees to warp naturally and destress and when you cut a warped tree the lumber is straight and won't warp or won't warp much at all since you cut the lumber out of warped wood already ,that is why you see so much warped lumber at lowe's and home depot the wood never got the chance to destress and since the lumber was cut from the log green and the attempted to dry it out in a kiln, look at all the houses that are 200 years old they were built from lumber that came from trees that were seasoned for a couple years and look at how solid they are yet.
My suggestion to you is see about using this for your own use or sell it to a flooring manufacture or just arrange an auction which is best since seasoned wood is a very high dollar item no matter where you are, and the forestry department should be able to help you out there.
Don't let anybody tell it is junk it is not I have seen too many guys like you get screwed over by people telling them it is only good for firewood and they end giving away or selling thousands of dollars worth of timber for nothingand someone else make the money off it.
Good Luck
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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Neighbor in East Texas county cut down trees leaving a mess and eye sore. Is there anything I can do to get him to clean up the mess. The road used to have a beautiful tree canopy. Not any more. Is aesthetic of these natural resources not a consideration before pillaging the land for a few dollars? Do land owners need a permit or can they just destroy the land and leave?
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