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Old 03-17-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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Must have been a heck of a road to take an hour to go a mile. Though in the backcountry with a pickup I can see that. Mercy Flight is a good thing to have on speed dial, just in case.
Here is a video of our road after we fixed it.



YouTube - road 001

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Old 03-17-2010, 10:54 PM
 
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Here is a video of our road after we fixed it.
Nice Ozark driveway you got there.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Here is a video of our road after we fixed it.



brushrunner
That's not bad, looks like a lot more than a 1 mph road. About like my driveway/private road.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:51 PM
 
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Although, I am still at a loss to understand what the hey Tokyo has to do with the OP.
The OP was describing an area with 65,000 people as a big city, when it certainly is not. That is why I brought up Tokyo. Because to people who live in that city or any other big city in the world like New York City, Sao Paulo, Moscow, Manila, Los Angeles, Mexico City, London, Shanghai, Sydney, etc to them 65,000 is NOTHING.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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The OP was describing an area with 65,000 people as a big city, when it certainly is not. That is why I brought up Tokyo. Because to people who live in that city or any other big city in the world like New York City, Sao Paulo, Moscow, Manila, Los Angeles, Mexico City, London, Shanghai, Sydney, etc to them 65,000 is NOTHING.
If 65,000 is NOTHING to those in places such as you cite, then 65,000 is HUGE to those in towns of populations say of 10,000, or 5,000 or 500, or smaller.

You're stating something as a fact, (65,000 pop city "certainly is not" a big city) when in fact, it is perception and an opinion.

It's all relative. Live for awhile in a remote, small town and then get back to me about how big a place of 65,000 seems.

In the meantime, who cares?
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Man BrushRunner - you'd love it up here... about 70 miles of the "highway" leading out to our place is just like your road Every spring it's bouncy as all get out, but by the end of summer it's flattened out a bit like the first part of your road. Let's not even discuss our "driveway" which is just ruts that are barely wide enough for the truck to fit between the trees, no hardpack or gravel either LOL

Here's a little sobering Population Density statistic (for city proper only):
Manilla: over 111K per sq mile
Tokyo: over 15k per sq mile (doesn't even make the top 50 list!)
New York, NY: over 27k per sq mile
Los Angeles, CA: appx 8k per sq mile
Seattle, WA: appx 6,700k per sq mile
Anchorage, AK: appx 164 per sq mile (it has the largest population, but has a much bigger land area)
Fairbanks, AK: appx 981 per sq mile
The closest village to me: 12 per sq mile
My neck of the woods: 0.75 per sq mile
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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My point exactly, MissingAll4Seasons...it's all perspective.

My old neck of the woods (zip code) population density--.13 per sq. mile. (In the lower 48!)
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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That's why I never look only at population, but go by population density... you have some really large populations, but the land area is also really big (like LA), so effectively there are less people. But look at a place like Manila, with only 250 feet per person... total... to live, work, play, whatever. I've been there, and it made me majorly claustrophobic.

Our population here and in the nearest village is slightly inflated, since it also takes into account the "part-timers" and miners not just the resident folks who live here year round. Year round, I'd say my neck of the woods is pretty close to your old neck of the woods. Of course, around our little bubble of civilization there are hundreds of miles that are uninhabited by humans.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:27 PM
 
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That's not bad, looks like a lot more than a 1 mph road. About like my driveway/private road.
Well that was after we did some work on it.The Fire Department turned a Truck over on it so they refuse to come back.Law won't come here.UPS or Fed Ex won't come here.

Right now my 4WD drags in several places and I have seen it where you couldn't get a Horse down it.

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Old 03-18-2010, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I moved to Chicago from a farm where the nearest village was pop. 350, and it never felt huge to me. It felt like a bunch of small towns stuck together.
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