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Old 03-13-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Canada
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LOL at some people considering an area inhabited by 65,000 people to be a big city. If you told somebody living in Tokyo that a town of 65,000 people is a big city, they would look at you like you are crazy. And you want to know why, BECAUSE TOKYO HAS A POPULATION OF OVER 12 MILLION PEOPLE. AND THAT IS JUST WITHIN THEIR CITY LIMITS, IT IS NOT EVEN COUNTING THEIR WHOLE METROPOLITAN AREA. THE METROPOLITAN AREA OF TOKYO HAS A POPULATION THAT IS LARGER THAN THAT OF MOST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
LOL at some people being as ignorant as to think that people in rural areas must live in a shack.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What are you a hermit ? Since you live out in the middle of nowhere, if you were to call 911 because you were seriously physically injured enough for it to be life threatening, how long would it take for the police and an ambulance truck to come out to your house ? You would probably be dead by the time they arrived at your doorstep, right ? Do you even live in a house or is it a shack ? I ask because most people who live in areas where you can walk many miles without seeing a single other Human Being besides yourself, tend to live in shacks.
Around here, living on a decent sized piece of property gets to be pretty expensive, unfortunately. Some people do sacrifice the quality of housing for a nice piece of property, but most find a balance. Due to the cost of property, for the most part those with nice, large remote properties tend to be quite wealthy and live in very nice places.

I have to say, most that live in the equivalent of "shacks" settle into our urban areas, particularly in high-density appartments or on tiny city lots.

As far as 911 response, you're right, it can take a while for an ambulance to arrive. That's one of the reason we have a number of neighborhood based volunteer fire/ems/first responder programs. As well as MedStar (a helicopter ambulance service). As far as police response, as my neighbor used to say, with 20 acres, a rifle and a tractor, I don't need no sherrif.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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.....BECAUSE TOKYO HAS A POPULATION OF OVER 12 MILLION PEOPLE. AND THAT IS JUST WITHIN THEIR CITY LIMITS, IT IS NOT EVEN COUNTING THEIR WHOLE METROPOLITAN AREA. THE METROPOLITAN AREA OF TOKYO HAS A POPULATION THAT IS LARGER THAN THAT OF MOST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
Yes they do. And for the most part we pity those poor people crammed into such a tiny urban area, living on top of each other, and so disconnected from nature.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Here is a Pic of Rush Hour here worst I can handle.



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Man, too crowded and that road is even paved...

I need to bring the camera along when I go to/from work. I'm on a few miles of gravel road and regularly have to stop for deer and wild turkeys in the road, and moose once in a while.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Around here, living on a decent sized piece of property gets to be pretty expensive, unfortunately. Some people do sacrifice the quality of housing for a nice piece of property, but most find a balance. Due to the cost of property, for the most part those with nice, large remote properties tend to be quite wealthy and live in very nice places.
Another thing -- if you live really far out, it may be cost-prohibitive or logistically impossible to get a lot of the high-end building materials to your home site. So you end up building with what you can get onto the property! I would *love* to have a super-insulated poured concrete root cellar... but there is absolutely no way to get a cement truck onto my site even if one of the companies was willing to make the drive and the concrete mix could be adjusted not to set up in the 4 hour drive time. So, instead, I have to hand mix and shovel in bags of concrete if I want to use it... and that never looks as pretty as poured and vibrated!
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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What are you a hermit ? Since you live out in the middle of nowhere, if you were to call 911 because you were seriously physically injured enough for it to be life threatening, how long would it take for the police and an ambulance truck to come out to your house ? You would probably be dead by the time they arrived at your doorstep, right ? Do you even live in a house or is it a shack ? I ask because most people who live in areas where you can walk many miles without seeing a single other Human Being besides yourself, tend to live in shacks.
Golem,

Reading some of your posts, you tend to have some odd concepts about people. No, I'm not a hermit. I have three homes, one in a major SW city, as well as other property. I have worked in other countries and lived in both large and small American cities.

As far as my rural house being a "shack", your house would likely fit into my barn. I choose to live 3/4 of a mile from my neighbor because too many of my close neighbors in the past have been nosy and prejudicial like you and, a couple of times, even dangerous.

Regarding doctors, if I get to one or if I don't, so be it. Regarding needing police, I have have arms and know how to use them. They stay loaded and they are not locked up.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:55 AM
 
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What are you a hermit ? Since you live out in the middle of nowhere, if you were to call 911 because you were seriously physically injured enough for it to be life threatening, how long would it take for the police and an ambulance truck to come out to your house ? You would probably be dead by the time they arrived at your doorstep, right ?
This is a common misconception and often asked question for those of us who live isolated lives. The truth is injuries are few and far between, I mean when was the last time you went to the hospital for a trip or fall, or went to the hospital for some other injury? Probably a long time ago. The majority of the time you need medical services for sickness such as flu's or cold's.

Those things come via other people. For some of us that live isolated lives, we seldom get sick so the need for medical services is not a primary concern. We just don't come into contact with people that often who are sick. A few weeks ago I sat on a plane with someone who was hacking up half his lungs, and sure enough, guess who is coughing now?

And for the few times injuries have occurred, I have enough medical supplies on hand to take care of myself. Most of the time the stuff is for my sheep or cows, but it has come in handy twice when I got tangled up in a chainsaw. I got some nasty scars, but no trip to the hospital via ambulance. No bravado there either, just the way it is.

PS. The rest of your statement was just silly so I did not bother to quote it with your demeaning post.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:32 AM
 
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Around here, living on a decent sized piece of property gets to be pretty expensive, unfortunately. Some people do sacrifice the quality of housing for a nice piece of property, but most find a balance. Due to the cost of property, for the most part those with nice, large remote properties tend to be quite wealthy and live in very nice places.

I have to say, most that live in the equivalent of "shacks" settle into our urban areas, particularly in high-density appartments or on tiny city lots.

As far as 911 response, you're right, it can take a while for an ambulance to arrive. That's one of the reason we have a number of neighborhood based volunteer fire/ems/first responder programs. As well as MedStar (a helicopter ambulance service). As far as police response, as my neighbor used to say, with 20 acres, a rifle and a tractor, I don't need no sherrif.

Regarding your 2nd paragraph, it is quite evident you have never driven remote roads in rugged areas of the south.

It is amazing how many extra years people can get out of a trailer house after it starts crumbling away.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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This is a common misconception and often asked question for those of us who live isolated lives. The truth is injuries are few and far between, I mean when was the last time you went to the hospital for a trip or fall, or went to the hospital for some other injury? Probably a long time ago. The majority of the time you need medical services for sickness such as flu's or cold's.

Those things come via other people. For some of us that live isolated lives, we seldom get sick so the need for medical services is not a primary concern. We just don't come into contact with people that often who are sick. A few weeks ago I sat on a plane with someone who was hacking up half his lungs, and sure enough, guess who is coughing now?

And for the few times injuries have occurred, I have enough medical supplies on hand to take care of myself. Most of the time the stuff is for my sheep or cows, but it has come in handy twice when I got tangled up in a chainsaw. I got some nasty scars, but no trip to the hospital via ambulance. No bravado there either, just the way it is.

PS. The rest of your statement was just silly so I did not bother to quote it with your demeaning post.
Right on, as usual, BrokenTap. I get sick everytime I go into the city, and sometimes if I go into the nearby village if one of them has been to the city. As long as I stay at home, I'm healthy as a horse. Most injuries are minor, and even the more serious ones (darn those chainsaws!) can usually be taken care of at home if you're prepared for them.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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The locals seriously just sit there in their car and wait for them to finish their convo? WTF?! I would be blaring my horn and yelling at them. They can easily talk somewhere else.

What is that supposed to mean? That's a little offensive. Like there aren't weird people in the country too?
Oh there are weird people too we just are a little slower than city folks I guess, we value a conversation and wonder where the city people are going in such a big hurry. Heck I have even been known to wave to a passing car or truck even when I dont know them. I just cant recall the same courtesy when I am in the city except for those one finger waves that somehow just dont come across as neighborly.
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