who else wants to move out of Sacramento? (Sutter, Sutter Creek: student loans, unemployment)

[Kingsnkali]

CityGirl72,

Please remember those "heat wave safety rules" up there! You guys can turn alabaster white during the long, dreary winters under the clouds. Stay out of the bright sun.

It was 102 in Portland on Thursday. That is definitely hot for those poor folks in the City of (wilting) Roses.

We hit 103 in Sacramento. Delta breeze should kick in soon here.

[j760]

Originally Posted by OvenMinx

So for anybody that wishes to move, how are you preparing for the anti-CA peeps of your new homes? I am moving to WA and I am dreading the first few 'so....you're not from here, are you?'. And I think it's hilarious that we, as Californians, understand that our state has its faults and wish to find a better community but that we're actually ostrasized by other communities simply because we lived in CA at one time. It's very regionist.

And I think the friendliest place I have ever lived was Vegas but I think that was because most people are, in fact, transplants.

If I were to ever leave California again it would be somewhat of a concern, especially because I know how many people have negative stereotypes about California in general in other parts of the country. Ultimately though I would apologize to no one, I'm proud to be a native Californian. And if I were to ever leave again it would not be because I'm unhappy here, it would be to make a better life for myself. You can take me out of California, but you can never take the California out of me. And if people were to have a problem with that then quite frankly they will just have to deal with it.

I would however respect the new place I moved to, embrace it and grow to love it. It would never take the place of California, this will always be home to me, but I would not expect the new place to be California. I would defend California in conversation though whenever necessary.

[sourgr8ps]

Originally Posted by j760

Iwould defend California in conversation though whenever necessary.

California, despite all its challenges, remains one of the best places in the country to call home. I love it here too and would never dream of relocating.

[Texasturkey]

Originally Posted by j760

If I were to ever leave California again it would be somewhat of a concern, especially because I know how many people have negative stereotypes about California in general in other parts of the country. Ultimately though I would apologize to no one, I'm proud to be a native Californian. And if I were to ever leave again it would not be because I'm unhappy here, it would be to make a better life for myself. You can take me out of California, but you can never take the California out of me. And if people were to have a problem with that then quite frankly they will just have to deal with it.

I would however respect the new place I moved to, embrace it and grow to love it. It would never take the place of California, this will always be home to me, but I would not expect the new place to be California. I would defend California in conversation though whenever necessary.

I have read posts from residents of other states and said the reason for some contempt for Californians is that they tend to take their state with them when they move. They attempt to "Californinanize" the state instead of embracing it for what it is. Especially the border states of Arizona, Nevada and Oregon. It is natural to be homesick for California at first when we begin to miss the conveniences we were accustomed to. We can be proud of where we are from and have fond memories there. But, we need to give the state we moved to a chance. Every state is unique with their traditions and ways of doing things. Stop making comparisons of apples to oranges. Once that happens, people in other states may be more welcoming toward us.

[garya73]

I lived in SoCal for over 30 years & moved to Sac cuz I couldn't afford to live in L.A. Housing in LA is way too expensive....& don't get me started on the traffic. In LA County, there are 10 million people.....too many folks for me! If you think people in Sac are bad drivers go drive in LA....talk about road rage! LA drivers are 10 times worse than Sac drivers......

[PapaDoc313]

"I have read posts from residents of other states and said the reason for some contempt for Californians is that they tend to take their state with them when they move. They attempt to "Californinanize" the state instead of embracing it for what it is."

You know, that's what I've seen from most posters on other state's boards. It's not that non-Californians inherently dislike Californians, but it seems (I guess more than anywhere else) Californians feel that is it their right to move into another state and attempt to make it CA Jr. Wouldn't that make anyone mad? Who wants a gang of people from another state moving into your home because things like housing and cost of living our cheaper and doing nothing to integrate and assimilate to their culture? If you love CA that much why move in the first place?

[gypsy77]

I don't know about other people but I don't "take CA with me" to other states and expect people to comply with my CA demands. Come on. I have lived in several different states, even though I was born and raised in Northern CA. Only in the midwest have I noticed any kind of contempt towards me because of where I was from. How can it be my fault that people have a problem with it when I haven't even spoken yet and someone I just meet in the midwest says, "Well, being from CA and all, you must think we're a bunch of bumpkins." What?! Who said I thought that? Why would I think that? So, from what I've experienced personally, it was nothing I did to make them automatically label me a "CA girl" or whatever it is they are prejudice against. I do notice that it happens more in small rural towns in the midwest, not really in larger cities or college towns there. It is definitely something that can be overcome though. If that is a factor for someone NOT to move, then I would suggest just try to move to a bigger town where people are little more open minded. The outskirts of a college town is always a safe bet. Not IN the college town (unless you party daily with 18 year olds) but maybe 15 - 20 minutes away out in the country. The midwest is nice, even though it gets arctic cold. At least the bad weather keeps most people out, that's probably why it hasn't gotten over crowded with suburbs, traffic, and strip malls.

[GLS]

Originally Posted by PapaDoc313

Who wants a gang of people from another state moving into your home because things like housing and cost of living our cheaper and doing nothing to integrate and assimilate to their culture?

Even though I love where I'm living in California now, I would not mind a few people moving here from Hawaii & Alaska trying to change it to be more like those states. A little more reverence for Nature, coupled with a more laid back attitude would improve California.

[bbluth]

I've been in Sac 12 years, working at one of the hospitals downtown, and never felt at home. I was born and raised in Los Angeles County, maybe that's the reason, people from here seem to feel negativity toward LA. I left Cali once to move to New Mexico, that lasted 3 years and I missed it so much I moved back. I'll never leave again, where else can you get this kind of weather all year? If weather is not a factor, you might consider Boston, Mass. My son moved there early this year, and I visited. Depending on which area you live it can be pricey (he lives in Brookline), but it is beautiful, and rich in history. Public commute transportation is easy there, and the population seems to be well educated around the city.

[cityx]

Originally Posted by bbluth

I've been in Sac 12 years, working at one of the hospitals downtown, and never felt at home. I was born and raised in Los Angeles County, maybe that's the reason, people from here seem to feel negativity toward LA. I left Cali once to move to New Mexico, that lasted 3 years and I missed it so much I moved back. I'll never leave again, where else can you get this kind of weather all year? If weather is not a factor, you might consider Boston, Mass. My son moved there early this year, and I visited. Depending on which area you live it can be pricey (he lives in Brookline), but it is beautiful, and rich in history. Public commute transportation is easy there, and the population seems to be well educated around the city.

Nice recommendation and I would agree. I spent about a month in the Boston area late last summer, (Hopkinton, Franklin area), and absolutely fell in love. On the weekends I commuted via rail-line into downtown Boston and it was great. The suburbs are clean and green - and the people I encountered were very friendly and left leaning. It completely shattered any prior opinions I had of the east coast.