who else wants to move out of Sacramento? (San Diego, Santa Barbara: relocating, smog)

[Dragondog]

Well the weather is not California coast! You have four seasons here- a modified humid continental climate- as opposed to coastal California's mild Mediterranean balmy forever....

You have moderate amounts of cold and heat here- Connecticut's climate is best described as 'temperate modified humid continental' the proximity of LI Sound and the Atlantic ocean temper the weather here compared to locations further inland, north and west.

Last week we had 6 straight days above 50- today it was 44, tomorrow will be 50- overnight lows in the upper 20s to freezing. December has been very mild thus far- with some days near 60- no snow for Christmas this year. On average only 1 Christmas in four will see a white Christmas.

We have three cold months here when unpleasant weather may be happen- from mid December to mid to late March.

Summers can be warm to hot- with periods of unpleasant humidity, that can last 3-5 days- but a back door cold front from the gulf of Maine or Canada gives relief compared to areas further south. And we have a smog problem- that would make any Los Angeleno proud- in the summer.

Global warming is changing our climate- we have earlier springs, warmer summers, longer Falls, and shorter winters with less snow then 30 years ago.

If I can grow Giant Sequoia here in my yard unprotected ,and cold hardy palms Windmill and sabal (that survive protected) and 'drickly Cactus pear- well its not as cold as many think in CA.

I majored in Geography and climatology at the University of Connecticut.

The climate here is by know means as pleasant as California's- especially along the coast, but it is considerably milder then many locations in the Midwest.

[dusesean1986]

Originally Posted by CelticLion

Well the weather is not California coast! You have four seasons here- a modified humid continental climate- as opposed to coastal California's mild Mediterranean balmy forever....

You have moderate amounts of cold here and heat- Connecticut's climate is best described as 'temperate modified humid continental' the proximity of LI Sound and the Atlantic ocean temper the weather here compared to locations further inland, north and west.

Last week we had 6 straight days above 50- today it was 44, tomorrow will be 50- overnight lows in the upper 20s to freezing.

We have three cold months here when unpleasant weather may be happen- from mid December to mid to late March.

Summers can be warm to hot- with periods of unpleasant humidity, that can last 3-5 days- but a back door cold front from the gulf of Maine or Canada gives relief compared to areas further south.

Global warming is changing out climate- we have earlier springs, warmer summers, longer Falls, and shorter winters with less snow then 30 years ago.

If I can grow Giant Sequoia here and and cold hardy palms Windmill and sabal that survive protected) and 'drickly' pear- well its not as cold as many think in CA.

I majored in Geography and climatology at the University of Connecticut.

The climate here is by know means as pleasant as California's- especially along the coast, but it is considerably milder then many locations in the Midwest.

Very well explained.

[cncsmomndad]

We left CA in August for the Raleigh area of NC. We love it here and enjoy it immensely. The fall colors on the trees was breath taking in October. December so far has been really mild. Last week we had mid-70 degree weather. We wanted a more laid-back, comfortable place to raise our children. A place with more values. Plus housing is affordable out here compared to CA. We sold our houses in CA and moved out here and don't ever plan on going back. The history on the East Coast is amazing and the ocean water is warm enough to swim in unlike NorCal. Yes, there is humidity here in the summer, but it is no more oppressive than 116 degrees like Sacramento. Most neighborhoods out here have pools too. We are thrilled with our decision to get out of CA and were lucky enough to sell the houses in August before the housing dip occurred. It wasn't Sac wasn't affordable for us...it was the people, their attitude and the air quality.

[looking4home]

Sac doesn't get to 116! C'mon! I think the all-time record is 112. This summer we got close to that for one day. Yes, there are summer days over 100, but not that many. I'd say about 7-10 the whole summer, which runs from May to Sept. here. This year, there wasn't one 100 degree day in all of August, typically the hotest month. I don't know where you were living in Sac, but I think the people, for the most part, have a reputation for being down-to-earth, and the entire region is considered family-friendly. I hope you don't later regret your decision to move to the southeast. People who "cash out" of CA have a hard time returning, if they have "movers remorse". I know several former residents that this happened to.

[cncsmomndad]

I was born and raised in the midwest. The people I encountered in CA were never as down to earth and non-materialistic as those from the Chicago burbs where I am from. Check in with me in 5, 10, 20 years. I will not have movers remorse. I guarantee it. I am nearer to family where I am now which is of utmost importance to us as we raise our children. And if I ever did want to move back, I could do so easily. We are not one of those families that left because of the high cost of housing and unaffordability. We had 3 houses in fact. We lived in Folsom.

From July 27th...
THE SACRAMENTO CITY TEMPERATURE REACHED 102 DEGREES WEDNESDAY...
BRINGING THE STRING OF DAYS WITH MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES OF 100 OR
HIGHER TO 11 IN A ROW

Definitely more than 7-10 days of 100+ degree weather this past summer, I was there and remember it well. The all time record is actually 114 degrees so I stand corrected.

[leavingcali]

There was definitely more than 7-10 days of 100+ weather here over the summer.

Why do people have a problem with other people not wanting to stay here? If you're happy, great! Other people are looking for something different, and if they find that in North Carolina, Texas, wherever, you should be happy for them. Yes, some people will have regret about moving out of CA, but many won't and don't. Lighten up.

(Good for you cncnmomndad)!!

[3dCEO]

DennismPat:

Interesting you should mention the cold in the midwest. I live in
Indy (Indianapolis) and today it's about 62 degrees. When I first
moved here 3 years ago, I was using ice melt on my driveway about
this time of December. Yet so far this winter, this temp. is about average.
It's gotten warmer every year. Wierdly, the summers have
gotten less hot (although, still quite humid on some days). I do
want to make clear that I have very strong feelings about the need to do something immediate and proactive about Global Warming -- but I'm lovin' the new weather!

[looking4home]

First of all, I could care less if anyone wants to leave their current locale. Heck, I'm not thrilled with living in my area, that's why I'm on this board! But I don't like posters who make outlandish or misleading comments. I think it unfairly skews a city/region's reputation.

Yes, Sac is hot in the summer. I personally enjoy the dry heat and the warm summer nights. Sometimes it is a bit much, like this past summer when we had many days of plus 100. But that was unusual. The super hot days are not bunched together like that, as the cool Delta breeze come in to cool things off. Compared to what other areas have to deal with (as in the southeast) - hurricanes, tornadoes, ice storms in winter, humidity in the summer, not to mention the legendary bug and snake problems - I'll take 100 any day. Y'all have a happy holiday season!

[cncsmomndad]

Outlandish comments? Okay, so 116 was an error, but by NO MEANS is it unusual to have many 100 + degree days in Sacramento. What other misleading or outlandish comments were made in my original post? 100 degree days in Sac are not "unusual". It is not outlandish either when I state we compared the AQI in Sac to LA and it seemed more often than not in recent years it is worse than LA. Sacramento is in a bowl so the smog settles in. It takes more than the Delta Breeze to blow it out during the summer. Up in the foothills you can see the smog settled in around the city and it is only going to get worse due to the growth. Isn't there a saying that if you didn't have allergies before moving to Sac you will? Pollens and other allergens all settle in that bowl too. I'm not saying where I live is perfect. Yes, we have bugs and humidity. A screened porch and a ceiling fan make it all okay for us if we are outside. Hurricanes impact the area with lots of rain and some fallen trees, not devastation as long as you aren't on the coast. Ice storms cause power to go out which isn't an issue with a generator. Tornadoes? Not in this specific area, not in a long time. Sacramento had its very own F0 a couple years ago. Sacramento has its El Nino years, threats of earthquakes, possibilities of tornadoes, smog, and is rated very high in the nation for car thefts. No area is perfect. (not saying you think Sac is perfect). We just didn't want to live there anymore. The only thing we will miss is being able to jump in the car and head to Mendocino.

And in the 3 homes we lived in in 3 totally different parts of the Sac area did anyone ever bring over "welcome to the neighborhood" cookies. Or Christmas cookies and goodies. In the few months we've lived here, I can say so far it is much friendlier and down to earth. That is my personal experience so there is no reason to bash or tear the above observation apart.

[looking4home]

First of all, Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Secondly, I have never been anywhere is the South, but I've loved the "idea" of the South before it became fashionable, and NC became the mecca for the dissatisfied.

I'm sure you have read the NC forum on here, and you see what problems the state now has that it has been inundated by "yankees". The native NC'ers are none too happy about that, and can you blame them? I object to this strongly - of people who arrive en masse and drastically alter the landscape and lifestyle that has existed for generations. People are such sheep - it's "in" to move to NC, so there they all go! It's happening to other states as well, like Utah, Idaho, AZ, and TX, and starting to happen to TN and KY.

Wouldn't it be better to get to the root of the problem instead of running away? Do you ever fear that one of these days in the not-too-distant-future the same problems that drove you out of Sac will occur in NC as well? What then? Another move? Are we all doomed to a bedouin-like existence - constantly pulling up stakes, uprooting family and saying good-bye to friends to search for our version of paradise?

I'm not trying to get heavy here, just trying to make people think a little. It sounds like you had a nice life in Sac, in economic terms anyway, so it makes a move like yours all the more puzzling to me. If you want a more genteel/polite experience for your kids, put them in private school, or block your TV channels and monitor their friendships. We all have to do that nowadays, no matter where we live. I can't imagine it being so horrific in quaint, little Folsom (which most people find very charming) that you had to move so far away. There must be more to your story, and naturally, that is entirely your own business. I'm curious, though, as to why you didn't stay in the southwest, as many former CA residents have done. But I think you did mention in another post that you have family ties to the South, in which case, I apologize.

At any rate, I'm glad you are happy there. But there are many who are not - mostly East Coast people who just are blown away by the cultural differences.