Why business is booming in Folsom (Sacramento, Roseville: foreclosure, employment, transfer)

[bluevelo]

Originally Posted by caligirlz

Proles?

He's referring to liberal hipsters, generally well educated, well tattooed peeps of 25-45, who often are childless (so the fact the schools in most dense downtown areas suck regardless of where you live in the US, they kind of forget that's why most people with kids want to live in burbs with decent schools), live in downtown-Midtown-East Sac, who think the rest of the world should be forced to live like them and drive a Prius (although they've usually got a SUV or two hidden in their East Sac garage). They hate suburbs, but they also hire private security to keep the scum out of their houses in their expensive close-in neighborhooods.

[caligirlz]

Originally Posted by bluevelo

He's referring to liberal hipsters, generally well educated, well tattooed peeps of 25-45, who often are childless (so the fact the schools in most dense downtown areas suck regardless of where you live in the US, they kind of forget that's why most people with kids want to live in burbs with decent schools), live in downtown-Midtown-East Sac, who think the rest of the world should be forced to live like them and drive a Prius (although they've usually got a SUV or two hidden in their East Sac garage). They hate suburbs, but they also hire private security to keep the scum out of their houses in their expensive close-in neighborhooods.

oh that's funny! I was thinking he meant paroles. . I was down in midtown this weekend, and while it was fun for a short time, I was very grateful & happy to get home to my SFH (& yard) in Folsom. I had a truck & SUV when I lived in East Sac...never interested in compact or hybrid vehicle.

[wburg]

"Proles" refers to the "proletariat"--the working class. It's a particularly unsubtle jab by one of those folks who think that living downtown is a Communist conspiracy, just as divorced from reality as bluevelo's rant about people who like living downtown--somehow, enjoying living in the central city (or, apparently, wealthy suburban neighborhoods adjacent to the central city) is semantically equal to demanding that the outer suburbs should be vacated at gunpoint. To me, that's a bit of a logic jump.

Okay, it's more of an "Evel Knievel Flies The Rocket Cycle Across Devil's Canyon" size logic jump.

[caligirlz]

That's even funnier! I'm glad there's a neighborhood just right for each of us.

[ryuns]

I tend to hold my distaste for other people's lifestyle based on the amount of good or ill they cause society. To make giant stereotypes, I can dislike a turbo hipster's poor taste in fashion as much as the next guy, but biking everywhere, holding a job, practicing safe sex, supporting local businesses, trying to revive inner cities (implicitly, by living there)--that's all okay in my book. Same goes with gay people--you don't have to agree with the lifestyle to see that gays tend to be model citizens. Meanwhile, you can be a white, well-dressed suburbanite, but if you have four kids with three moms and are a year and a half behind on child support, that's less okay.

But I guess if your hobby is ranting about something silly and unprovable (I'm looking at you bluevelo), anyone who you disapprove of superficially is equally responsible for the downfall of society.

[NickB1967]

Originally Posted by bluevelo

He's referring to liberal hipsters, generally well educated, well tattooed peeps of 25-45, who often are childless (so the fact the schools in most dense downtown areas suck regardless of where you live in the US, they kind of forget that's why most people with kids want to live in burbs with decent schools), live in downtown-Midtown-East Sac, who think the rest of the world should be forced to live like them and drive a Prius (although they've usually got a SUV or two hidden in their East Sac garage). They hate suburbs, but they also hire private security to keep the scum out of their houses in their expensive close-in neighborhooods.

Actually, those you describe are the New Urbanist Soviet Men. They want the rest of us to be like proles.

[bluevelo]

Originally Posted by ryuns

I tend to hold my distaste for other people's lifestyle based on the amount of good or ill they cause society. To make giant stereotypes, I can dislike a turbo hipster's poor taste in fashion as much as the next guy, but biking everywhere, holding a job, practicing safe sex, supporting local businesses, trying to revive inner cities (implicitly, by living there)--that's all okay in my book. Same goes with gay people--you don't have to agree with the lifestyle to see that gays tend to be model citizens. Meanwhile, you can be a white, well-dressed suburbanite, but if you have four kids with three moms and are a year and a half behind on child support, that's less okay.

But I guess if your hobby is ranting about something silly and unprovable (I'm looking at you bluevelo), anyone who you disapprove of superficially is equally responsible for the downfall of society.

Uh, I live over by the med center, and we have all sorts of wonderful people wandering up from south of 14th Street to rob our homes, in daylight, when we are not there, plus the scum that get the free rides off of Light Fail, get off at 59th or 48th, and wander our neighborhood. Some are homeless, but we are having a real problem with little Section 8 f'ers casing houses with their cell phones in hand and then running like hell when one of the persons on my street is home and comes outside.

We have a serious crime problem in Sacramento, we have a serious problem with gangbangers, and we have a serious problem with welfare people stealing from everyone else. If we would truly get tough about crime and eliminate 95% of welfare Sacramento and California would be a much better place.

[Josh1102]

So you would rather live in Del paso heights nad south sac than Folsom? You must be retarded or black.

[hydro]

Pretty much. I think the suburban distate is on account of how obnoxious the people seem. When people have kids they automatically become incredibly annoying. Of course hipsters and parents shouldn't co-exist... this is why we should keep our sac proper schools horrific, to properly segregate. Then all of the behind child support folks can live in arden, the (clean and upstanding, agreed!) gays and hip folks can live where the cool kids are(and/or Wburg), the hens have Fair Oaks, the equestrians have Sloughouse,the gangbangers can stay in south sac, and that annoying, toned, fake blond mom with the huge glasses, prada purse and running shorts can live with her family in the burbs and send her kids to the distinguished schools (what on earth does this Mean?) If you are blue collar you can live in Elk Grove or Rancho Cordova or brave the levees in West Sactomas. We all have a place to belong, see?

Originally Posted by ryuns

I tend to hold my distaste for other people's lifestyle based on the amount of good or ill they cause society. To make giant stereotypes, I can dislike a turbo hipster's poor taste in fashion as much as the next guy, but biking everywhere, holding a job, practicing safe sex, supporting local businesses, trying to revive inner cities (implicitly, by living there)--that's all okay in my book. Same goes with gay people--you don't have to agree with the lifestyle to see that gays tend to be model citizens. Meanwhile, you can be a white, well-dressed suburbanite, but if you have four kids with three moms and are a year and a half behind on child support, that's less okay.

But I guess if your hobby is ranting about something silly and unprovable (I'm looking at you bluevelo), anyone who you disapprove of superficially is equally responsible for the downfall of society.

[NinaN]

Wow. Sorry I'm so annoying. I guess I need to go out and buy a Prada purse and designer sunglasses so I can blend in here.