Middle/Upper Middle-class White neighborhoods in Sac?

[wburg]

The assumption of this thread's OP is that a white person asking for a middle-class white neighborhood is identical to a black person asking for a middle-class black neighborhood. They are not the same thing, for the reasons stated above. One of the great things about California, and Sacramento in particular, is that this issue is somewhat less important (though not entirely unimportant) than it is in other parts of the country where color lines are still more rigidly drawn. In fact, our relatively porous racial barriers are often leveled as a criticism of Sacramento--people feel like racial and class divisions are not pronounced enough, until they get into far-out subdivisions that are still very predominantly white.

I consider the discomfort of that sort of folks to be a profound compliment to my city and its many communities.

[KC6ZLV]

Originally Posted by wburg

The assumption of this thread's OP is that a white person asking for a middle-class white neighborhood is identical to a black person asking for a middle-class black neighborhood. They are not the same thing, for the reasons stated above.

That is a very generalized statement. Most people prefer to live in familiar surroundings. Thus, we have ethnic neighborhoods. Someone looking for a middle-class white neighborhood may be looking to live among people with a common background, common interests, proximity to the type of businesses that are found in those neighborhoods, and so on. It is not an absolute declaration of racism and hatred toward anyone who isn't white, as you have blatantly stated in these forums in the past, and attempted to suggest as fact many more times. When you throw in all the other factors, things like economics come into play. If you have the money to buy a house, most people will opt-in to the better neighborhoods regardless of their ethnic background. Some of these people like activities that will make them decide Rocklin is a place to buy a house. Maybe someone who likes overpriced food in Midtown will buy a place in East Sacramento. Someone who likes the outdoors might end up in El Dorado County. Some people don't have interests in anything and simply want to live within five minutes of Safeway and the Roseville Galleria. What people really don't want is to live in an area where the commercial zones are lined with dumpy liquor stores, check cashing shops, used tire dealers, kwikie marts, and having to commute 20 minutes to a real grocery store because all the neighborhood grocery stores have closed because of the high theft rates.

And of course, there is racism involved in some cases. Nobody is denying that. What many of us have a problem with regarding the pro-diversity crowd is that they think everything is race-based, and if you don't want to live in a bad neighborhood that happens to be anything but white, you must be racist because there is no other reason someone could possibly not like about living along Marysville Blvd, but as many posters have stated in this forum, very few of them have lived anywhere other than predominantly white middle-class neighborhoods.

[SageCats]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

Whats wrong with being specific and what does the year have to do with it?

You just pissed off a lot of liberals, that's all. Don't forget. It's California. You can't say anything "un PC" without others getting their panties in a bunch.
Had you asked about all minority neighborhoods, then your question would have been "okay" by PC standards.

[hydro]

Do we have those?? I think if you find an area with low crime you will have An okay time connecting with your neighbors regardless. Maybe the south is different