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Old 08-07-2014, 07:31 PM
 
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Tell me about this alternate universe. What color is the sky in that world?
We hear the sky is much bluer, and sometimes it rains money due to trickle-down economics.

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living in bubbles?
East Sac huge?

Where do you currently live? Perhaps you could tell us more about yourself.
This is only what I've heard from one or two people's snarky remarks, I don't presume to know anything about the area and mean no offense those living here. The fact that I don't know is why I'm asking, and often the stereotypes / sarcastic comments ring truth.

E. Sac looks pretty big to me when compared to Curtis Park, but I guess Land Park is bigger since there's also a south portion? We haven't been over there yet.

We're a young couple, late 20s, renting temporarily in Med Ctr. However, looking for a place to live permanently / grow into and raise kids, but also don't want to be trapped in suburbia and unfortunately we absolutely need to be closer to downtown. Healthy budget <$650k. No serious political affiliations, more left-middle leaning on most issues, but don't really care one way or the other. Prefer mixed / diverse neighborhoods (which is what we see most of Sac as, and is awesome coming from segregated S. FL). Love Midtown but lots are tiny! Our large dog needs poop space. E. Sac is actually a big contender but demographic seems mostly older. Truth is we don't know, and are looking forward to more comments. Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:09 PM
 
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Like the "historical inevitability" of socialism, I suppose.....
Maybe I'm not familiar enough with them, not being a Democrat, but exactly when was the inevitability of socialism made part of the Democratic Party platform? The Dems I see tend to vary from basically identical to 1950s/60s Republicans to a kind of wishy-washy mildly-left populism that would never say "socialism" in public lest they be forced from the Democratic Party mainstream. I find socialism inevitably hysterical myself, almost as funny as right-wing hysterical fears that Joe Stalin is still waiting under the bed.

The latter sort of mid-left Democrat tend to be found in Land Park, I think, although I do know a lot of old Portuguese and Chinese guys from that end of town who are Republicans. I think Curtis Park is a bit more firmly Democrat, I think a lot of our elected Dems live down that way. Midtown tends to be a mixed bag--old hippies, Libertarian Party members, LGBT rights activists (including the Pink Pistols and Log Cabin Republicans), a handful of actual leftists, political wonks of either persuasion, and the mostly-apolitical hipster brigades and club kids who haven't been gentrified out to Oak Park. The ethnic neighborhoods of the central city tend to be socially conservative in my opinion, but I'm not sure about party affiliation.

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We're a young couple, late 20s, renting temporarily in Med Ctr. However, looking for a place to live permanently / grow into and raise kids, but also don't want to be trapped in suburbia and unfortunately we absolutely need to be closer to downtown. Healthy budget <$650k. No serious political affiliations, more left-middle leaning on most issues, but don't really care one way or the other. Prefer mixed / diverse neighborhoods (which is what we see most of Sac as, and is awesome coming from segregated S. FL). Love Midtown but lots are tiny! Our large dog needs poop space. E. Sac is actually a big contender but demographic seems mostly older. Truth is we don't know, and are looking forward to more comments. Thanks in advance.
North Oak Park is basically shaping up to be the next Midtown, the corridor along Broadway is only going to become cooler and more interesting, more like J Street was in the 1980s and 1990s. Lots in Midtown/Downtown basically come in two sizes, 40x80 or 40x160, and know plenty of people in Midtown with big dogs. If your dog's poop doesn't fit in a 40 foot wide yard, maybe you actually have a pet Brontosaurus.

If you want a place with a yard that is closer to downtown, the places to look are on the northeastern and southwestern edges of the grid--Boulevard Park/New Era Park/Marshall School, or Richmond Grove/Poverty Ridge/Newton Booth. Snap it up quick because they are rare and they aren't making any more single family homes, pretty much all the new development is higher-density, multi-unit housing or small-lot housing with no yard to speak of. $650K is doable even in the current super-hot housing market from all the Bay Area spillover.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:18 AM
 
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River Park may be more liberal/Democrat than East Sacramento proper, due to its high population of academics and professors who teach at CSUS (there's just something about knowing facts, I guess.)
I don't think this is true, just based on observation. East Sac is pretty liberal, with a solid minority of California conservatives, but River Park is probably one of the more conservative enclaves.

I had never heard this term "North Oak Park" until a few weeks ago on this forum. I've heard it called "the Med Center area" for at least twenty years.
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:30 AM
 
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I think the term was coined by a former councilmember, Deborah Ortiz, during her tenure on the city council. I stand corrected on River Park--I have to admit I have been there maybe three times, just knew a lot of CSUS faculty lived around there. And the California conservatives are the old-school Republicans I'm talking about. That's the neighborhood where Ronald Reagan lived, after all!
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:04 AM
 
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not being a Democrat
Well, that explains a lot.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:06 AM
 
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Ronald Reagan lived
Despite teabaggers thinking that Ronald Reagan was jesus reincarnated, he was actually a center left business democrat.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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Well, that explains a lot.
I'm not a Republican either, in case you were wondering. Reagan was a Republican, it's just that what was a Republican in Reagan's day is now a center-left Democrat.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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I had never heard this term "North Oak Park" until a few weeks ago on this forum. I've heard it called "the Med Center area" for at least twenty years.
You can get an "official" map of the neighborhoods here, Maps and Boundaries but of course, what people actually call areas depend on what's trendy, as well as what's feasible to keep track of. The area labelled "North Oak Park" seems consistent with what I hear these days, though I'm not a realtor. When I was house shopping 3 years ago, I heard the term "Med Center" used a lot more generically, presumably because Oak Park had more negativity associated with it. Not sure what the realtors are saying these days, but based on the prices and general interest in North Oak Park right now, I don't think it has much of a stigma anymore. (Which pretty much sums up the OP's description/stereotype of the area.)
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Based on the increase in searches and web traffic for online listings in north Oak Park with Redfin, the firm tabbed it as one of 10 neighborhoods nationally warming up in attention and activity.
Redfin: North Oak Park home prices heating up as buyers move in - Sacramento Business Journal

Happy to see the place improve and gentrify (not least because they're bringing in interesting businesses that are an easy bike ride from my house, like Arthur Henry's, the Old Soul expansion, and Oak Park Brewing), but also a little sad that we're saying goodbye to yet another affordable neighborhood. Hopefully the interest will keep moving farther south and improve south OP as well.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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This is how liberal East Sac is

Water Vigilantes Strike in East Sacramento | KTXL FOX40

Hardcore left wing environmental wackos.

East sac mostly republican?
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:53 PM
 
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I'm not a Republican either, in case you were wondering. Reagan was a Republican, it's just that what was a Republican in Reagan's day is now a center-left Democrat.
You may not be a homophobic right wing teabagger, but you're definitely a conservative when it comes to city policy.

And yes, Reagan was a republican in name only, even back in the 80s. He was always a left of center business politician with his number one priority being bending over and taking it in the rear end for any ceo that visited the white house.
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