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Old 09-07-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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2 Sacramento police officers shot; suspect dead, PD says - SFGate
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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The suspect, Daniel Littlecloud has died
Man accused of killing deputy, injuring 2 CHP officers dies
Suspects and all involved were from the Bay Area, no surprise.
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:19 AM
 
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Suspects and all involved were from the Bay Area, no surprise.
LittleCloud was also released from prison based one of California's insane laws that lets out violent offenders.
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: la la land
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LittleCloud was also released from prison based one of California's insane laws that lets out violent offenders.
What insane law was that? As far as I can tell he was never released from prison early. It looks to me was out on the streets and able to shoot these officers because his mother put up her house as collateral for bail on his latest case, a four count federal indictment. .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.75f061a77d0d
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Call it what you want, but it works. And where is your angst about the money we have spent on "extortion money" to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and a number of other countries?
There is zero proof that it's the money paid that caused crimes to drop, as other changes happened around the same time that could have caused it to drop as well.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: la la land
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There is zero proof that it's the money paid that caused crimes to drop, as other changes happened around the same time that could have caused it to drop as well.
Ok, fair enough but what else changed during that time period?
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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Suspects and all involved were from the Bay Area, no surprise.
Bay Areans spreading their misery where ever they go
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:55 PM
 
Location: la la land
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If the federal judge had listened to the prosecuting attorney, Littlecloud would not have been released from jail where he was being held facing a 12 year minimum in federal prison

"An assistant U.S. attorney warned a federal judge not to release Thomas Littlecloud last summer, saying he had talked about shooting police and he had rammed police cars before to get away."
Federal judge was warned not to release man who killed Sacramento Co. deputy
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:44 AM
 
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Parole Board is being told to release anyone they can. Even Manson followers.

People don't want to pay taxes for more prisons. Supreme Court said our jails are over crowded to the point that the punishments are cruel and unusual. Cramped livjng quarters, poor medical care, etc.

So the only option is to let them go.

I would gladly pay a few percent of my paycheck to taxes, to fund building more jails for violent criminals.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: la la land
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Parole Board is being told to release anyone they can. Even Manson followers. People don't want to pay taxes for more prisons. Supreme Court said our jails are over crowded to the point that the punishments are cruel and unusual. Cramped livjng quarters, poor medical care, etc.
So the only option is to let them go.
I would gladly pay a few percent of my paycheck to taxes, to fund building more jails for violent criminals.
No, actually that's not true. I have a good friend who is a senior administrator at CDCR parole division and they are not "trying to release anyone they can" They are attempting to comply with prop 57 without releasing inmates who pose a risk to the public safety.

These are the draft regulations issued this July - pages 23-28 outline the process for screening inmates for a prop 57 release

The purpose of prop 57 was to ensure compliance with the SCOTUS prison population cap, if you can think of a better, safer way to release inmates in order to avoid having the feds take over the process then please share them with us. And it's not just a matter of 'building a few jails', the cost of keeping an inmate in a California prison has risen to over $75,000 per year. The good old days when you could just lock em up and let God sort it out are long gone. We are currently spending 11.3 billion a year to keep people in prison in California. We spend 3.8 billion on childcare and pre-school Maybe if we spend less on locking people up and more on preschool we wouldn't end up with so many people in prison?
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