Modesto????? (San Diego, San Jose, San Francisco: where to stay, low crime, new home)

[STK209]

Hey im looking in to moving in with my cousin in South Modesto from Stockton and from what i read and heard its a tough place comparable to areas in LA?i know stockton has a higher crime rate then Modesto,but people have also told me that the crime rates in Modesto are weighed out evenly with the bad sides being south mo,west mo,the village,and airport district,and the rest of the city with low crime rates...so does anyone have an idea if south modesto is really bad,and not a good area to live in.please let me know thanks

[Carolinemoveswhere?]

It depends where you live in Stockton, I would think. If you're coming from a gated neighborhood in Brookside, then you are really going to have some culture shock. South Modesto is a dangerous section of town. I would much rather live in a smaller place in a better part of town. Obviously, don't hang out with people with gang ties. You sit on the porch with the puppies, you'll wake up with fleas, you know?

Now, I don't know if you could compare it to LA. I'm not familiar with their statistics.

[vdy1985]

South Modesto is rough. Parts of it aren't incorporated into the proper city of Modesto, so the crime rate of Modesto seems lower. South Modesto is BAD news. Nortenos and gang wars a few years ago. i don't know if it has calmed down, but I remember it being bad.

[Xproject187]

I can see that this is an old post:
However I must add to it for the sake of My Home-Town's reputation & to help the next guy who wants to know a lil about the Northern California Farm Town with a criminal reputation that spans the Nation dare I say the Globe. A reputation that for many people is comparable to some fictional place in a horror movie,but in reality is a small town where most of Our Nations food & wine is produced.

Look I'm a Dad who's lived in Modesto most of My life & I've also lived in LA (early 80's) So I know what I'm talking about when I speak of Modesto & You really should believe Me when I say Modesto is not a bad place to live, Quite the Contrary!
Which makes it hard to listen when I read/hear of people who say Neg things about Modesto especially when none of the respondent's stated whether they'd even lived in Modesto for any length of time. Sure there's been a number of heinous crimes committed here in Modesto over the last few decades & some of them even gained national attention due to the hideous nature of the offenses & about that I can not lie. I meen what good would it do? When the whole world knows of it anyhow.

As for S.Modesto it isn't what I'd call real bad & a fact that endorse's My opinion is that S.Modesto is a neighborhood which is like 70 years old & approx 5 years ago a whole slew of new homes went up over there. So it's kinda like a little neighborhood in a neighborhood. Mind You I don't think any of these "New-Home" owners would invest in building a New Home in a location that's considered bad.

For instance You won't see any new housing tracks on the East side of Modesto like You do in North,West & South sides & in My opinion the reason why is due to the prevalent Drug problem within the microcosm known as Airport Dist pure & simple.
A new home owner isn't going to want to invest his money into a property that's going to loose, not to mention expose his children to an element that would most likely yield doom. The gamble just isn't worth it !!!

Like I said I've lived here almost all of My life with Sacramento & Stockton rite down the road but I couldn't name 1 neighborhood in either of those towns blighted or otherwise,but I couldn't help but notice that thee original poster named off Modesto's blighted neighborhoods almost like he knew them 1'st hand & I mean he didn't miss a one.
Now I realize Airport Dist. is infamous but dude, it's only a 1 sq mile section of a city thats 36.0 sq miles in size @ Aug 2008
But I'll admit Airport Dist. is probably a key contributer to our towns bad Rep & as such shamefully has a rep of it's own localy!
But what's a real shame is the fact that here in Modesto it's common knowledge that this particular 1 mile section of town known as "Airport" has consistently churned out generation after generation after generation of Criminals & Drug Addicts since the Okie migration during the Dust Bowl but no real efforts are being made towards helping change the endless cycle of what is Airport.
Let Me tell You kid Airport Dist. is one neighborhood You'll need to stay far away from!


However it's the same thing on the well-to-do sides of town too just different faces.
There's the Arian Gangs like Skin-Heads & The Nazi Low-Riders, as well as Mosh, Goth, Metal-Heads & Punk Rockers with Fascist & Anarchist ideologies all of who are able,willing & ready to stomp That Ass if You don't look & act like they think You should, so it really doesn't mater which side you choose, the drugs & gangs are gonna be there when You arrive regardless! Truth is Drugs are all over Modesto but I dare You to name a place in America where they're not ?
The question is where do You fit ? & can You afford to live on that particular side of town.

"South.Mo" as it's called locally was always a predominantly white neighborhood. Lower class white, but white none the less,that is untill the 70's when it shifted to Hispanic & to this day it's still a Mixed neighborhood aprox 60% Hispanic & 40 % White.
The same is to be said for Airport Dist. it was an all white neighborhood, So white that cross burning was still going on in the early 70's but You gotta figure most of the people who lived in Airport had migrated from Oklahoma in the 1930's thus it garnered it's name "Lil Oakie" but in the 80's there was a shift from a few hispanic families that lived throughout the 60's & 70's it grew to where there are now as many Hispanics in Airport as there are Whites, mind you till this day many white residents in that neighborhood still harbor that old south way of thinking.

Since the 60's all the towns growth has spread toward the North side of town & so the farther North you go the more money it cost's to live there, but thats not to say there are no Hispanics or Blacks on the North side of town since there are well-to-do Hispanics/Blacks too & they also want to live on the nice side of town.

~X~

[SouthSideModesto]

Originally Posted by Xproject187

I can see that this is an old post:
However I must add to it for the sake of My Home-Town's reputation & to help the next guy who wants to know a lil about the Northern California Farm Town with a criminal reputation that spans the Nation dare I say the Globe. A reputation that for many people is comparable to some fictional place in a horror movie,but in reality is a small town where most of Our Nations food & wine is produced.

Look I'm a Dad who's lived in Modesto most of My life & I've also lived in LA (early 80's) So I know what I'm talking about when I speak of Modesto & You really should believe Me when I say Modesto is not a bad place to live, Quite the Contrary!
Which makes it hard to listen when I read/hear of people who say Neg things about Modesto especially when none of the respondent's stated whether they'd even lived in Modesto for any length of time. Sure there's been a number of heinous crimes committed here in Modesto over the last few decades & some of them even gained national attention due to the hideous nature of the offenses & about that I can not lie. I meen what good would it do? When the whole world knows of it anyhow.

As for S.Modesto it isn't what I'd call real bad & a fact that endorse's My opinion is that S.Modesto is a neighborhood which is like 70 years old & approx 5 years ago a whole slew of new homes went up over there. So it's kinda like a little neighborhood in a neighborhood. Mind You I don't think any of these "New-Home" owners would invest in building a New Home in a location that's considered bad.

For instance You won't see any new housing tracks on the East side of Modesto like You do in North,West & South sides & in My opinion the reason why is due to the prevalent Drug problem within the microcosm known as Airport Dist pure & simple.
A new home owner isn't going to want to invest his money into a property that's going to loose, not to mention expose his children to an element that would most likely yield doom. The gamble just isn't worth it !!!

Like I said I've lived here almost all of My life with Sacramento & Stockton rite down the road but I couldn't name 1 neighborhood in either of those towns blighted or otherwise,but I couldn't help but notice that thee original poster named off Modesto's blighted neighborhoods almost like he knew them 1'st hand & I mean he didn't miss a one.
Now I realize Airport Dist. is infamous but dude, it's only a 1 sq mile section of a city thats 36.0 sq miles in size @ Aug 2008
But I'll admit Airport Dist. is probably a key contributer to our towns bad Rep & as such shamefully has a rep of it's own localy!
But what's a real shame is the fact that here in Modesto it's common knowledge that this particular 1 mile section of town known as "Airport" has consistently churned out generation after generation after generation of Criminals & Drug Addicts since the Okie migration during the Dust Bowl but no real efforts are being made towards helping change the endless cycle of what is Airport.
Let Me tell You kid Airport Dist. is one neighborhood You'll need to stay far away from!


However it's the same thing on the well-to-do sides of town too just different faces.
There's the Arian Gangs like Skin-Heads & The Nazi Low-Riders, as well as Mosh, Goth, Metal-Heads & Punk Rockers with Fascist & Anarchist ideologies all of who are able,willing & ready to stomp That Ass if You don't look & act like they think You should, so it really doesn't mater which side you choose, the drugs & gangs are gonna be there when You arrive regardless! Truth is Drugs are all over Modesto but I dare You to name a place in America where they're not ?
The question is where do You fit ? & can You afford to live on that particular side of town.

"South.Mo" as it's called locally was always a predominantly white neighborhood. Lower class white, but white none the less,that is untill the 70's when it shifted to Hispanic & to this day it's still a Mixed neighborhood aprox 60% Hispanic & 40 % White.
The same is to be said for Airport Dist. it was an all white neighborhood, So white that cross burning was still going on in the early 70's but You gotta figure most of the people who lived in Airport had migrated from Oklahoma in the 1930's thus it garnered it's name "Lil Oakie" but in the 80's there was a shift from a few hispanic families that lived throughout the 60's & 70's it grew to where there are now as many Hispanics in Airport as there are Whites, mind you till this day many white residents in that neighborhood still harbor that old south way of thinking.

Since the 60's all the towns growth has spread toward the North side of town & so the farther North you go the more money it cost's to live there, but thats not to say there are no Hispanics or Blacks on the North side of town since there are well-to-do Hispanics/Blacks too & they also want to live on the nice side of town.

~X~

XProject187,

Coming from somebody who was born and raised in South Modesto and lived in LA county for a few years, damn are you wrong. South Modesto in the 1980's was BAD! Back in these times, these "small hoods" were all at war with each other and the shootings were constant. Back then there was no Norteno truce.

You couldn't drive down some streets without finding a group of 50 Nortenos walking right through the middle of the street. I remember being a kid at night and hearing gunshots almost non-stop. On my block there are people who have been killed, shot stabbed, run over, and beaten almost to death, and this continues to this day.

But today the gangs of South Modesto are different. Not that the hoods aren't still dangerous, but they're nothing like they were in the 1980's/1990's. Crime in the county was much higher back then than it is now. And there were way less crimes reported at that time than there are now. In the 1990's roughly 50% of violent crime in the COUNTY was in South Modesto...that's as much violent crime in an area with a population probably under 100,000 in a county of over 450,000. (And that is just REPORTED cases)

South Modesto is about 80% Mexican, not 60%. And gangs have been here since the 1960's (maybe earlier).

As far as Rancho Encantado goes, the area of new homes in South Modesto, that area is already considered a hood. I told everybody when those were built that within 2 years it would become a part of Deep SouthSide Modesto, and it has. You can't built a new neighborhood next to a bad one and expect it to stay good. If you notice, Deep SouthSide Modesto (original deep) is mostly homes built around the 1940's/1950's. Behind that they built homes in the late 1980's, and this area is now considered to be almost as bad as old Deep. Now when you drive through the newest houses, built in '05 to present, you see a lot of the same things you see in old Deep: tagging, gangsters posted up in front of houses, shootings, etc.

XProject, I don't doubt that the part of Modesto you live in is somewhat safe. The thing about Modesto 20 years ago is that crime was centralized in the southern half of the city (South of Maze and Yosemite) and the rest of the city was relatively safe. Now it has spread out, and although these parts of the city that were always really bad have gotten much better, they are still dangerous. You can live here for 100 years and never have a problem. But all it takes is one time to end up dead. And this is true especially for out-of-towners. In the last three or four years I remember people from Lynwood (LA), Pacoima (LA), San Diego, San Francisco and San Jose being killed in Modesto. But don't take my word for it. Move in and find out for yourself.

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SouthSide Modesto

[SouthSideModesto]

Originally Posted by Carolinemoveswhere?

It depends where you live in Stockton, I would think. If you're coming from a gated neighborhood in Brookside, then you are really going to have some culture shock. South Modesto is a dangerous section of town. I would much rather live in a smaller place in a better part of town. Obviously, don't hang out with people with gang ties. You sit on the porch with the puppies, you'll wake up with fleas, you know?

Now, I don't know if you could compare it to LA. I'm not familiar with their statistics.

I agree for the most part. But every hood is different, so be careful how you're living in an area you don't know. If you're still planning on moving here hit me up and I'll give you some tips on where to stay away from.

In my opinion, Modesto is a more dangerous place than LA (overall). I think there are more good areas in LA than there are in Modesto. Stanislaus County's crime rate is almost double LA's. But there are hoods to stay away from in each city.

Stockton is worse than Modesto and LA overall, but South Modesto is as bad as any part of Stockton. In Modesto the southern part of the city is all bad, and the northern part is a mix of good and bad. In Stockton, only the far northern tip and a few areas throughout are good, and the rest is bad. And in South Modesto the majority of crimes go unreported, but I'd suspect Stockton is a lot of the same.

[Shope]

It's not called Methdesto and Molesto for nothing.