Thinking of Coming Home to California

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by drummer5000

even the worst parts of LA have palm trees, this is not so in SAC?

Remember Sac isn't near the ocean and has a different climate than L.A. they really don't have many palm trees, it has little to do with the Ghetto. YOu will see some Palm trees, just not quite like what you seem to have in mind..As for even the ghettos in L.A. having them, a few yes, but not many. I think you have dream in your mind about Calif. Where did you live when you were there before?

You say you want to work in the garden, now you say a Condo would be fine, most condos don't offer much in the way of gardening space..

Ghetto area is ok with you, but you have a wife, I am sure her safety is important..

You might want to think this over for now, and just keep that dream..

Nita

[drummer5000]

Originally Posted by nmnita

Remember Sac isn't near the ocean and has a different climate than L.A. they really don't have many palm trees, it has little to do with the Ghetto. YOu will see some Palm trees, just not quite like what you seem to have in mind..As for even the ghettos in L.A. having them, a few yes, but not many. I think you have dream in your mind about Calif. Where did you live when you were there before?

You say you want to work in the garden, now you say a Condo would be fine, most condos don't offer much in the way of gardening space..

Ghetto area is ok with you, but you have a wife, I am sure her safety is important..

You might want to think this over for now, and just keep that dream..

Nita

Well im being flexible, in other words if the only houses I can afford are in places I can't tolerate i'll look at condos perhaps. Yes I like to garden but ya know. I also play drums but I have an electronic drum set for practicing in apartments. So im trying to be flexible on everything. The economic problems were caused in part because people could not say "no" or do without until later. I am not going to get overextended on a mortgage period.

Now, If I can find a fixer in Orangevale or Carmichael or Rancho Cordova or Elk Grove or some other place that looks good and fits my range it might anger some who paid 300k 4 years ago. This is not my problem, and they should welcome me for fixing up a house being a small but real part of the solution. My entire family is in construction except for me and they don't have alot to do these days so they would love to help me fix a nice place.

As far as California dreaming, i've lived all over the state in the mountains deserts and mostly grew up in LA and we've lived in some parts about as bad as say south SAC and don't really want to do that again so I appreaciate the words of caution. I haven't spent enough time in your city to know for sure but it may be just what Im after.

Portland got 2 ft of snow this year and Im done with that, it's over portland is a fat lazy chick and I'm dumping her. If there are no palms on my street i'll plant the first on along with the oaks (which are sooo much prettier in california by the way).

[bradlywhite]

You also might check the smaller towns, Oroville, Gridley, Live Oak, Grass Valley area. It is not far from Sacramento, fairly easy commutes.

[Dean Trails]

Originally Posted by drummer5000

even the worst parts of LA have palm trees, this is not so in SAC?

Nope, it is too chilly. You might see a few but not near the numbers of SoCal. The Bay Area has palms as the ocean influence moderates the temperatures but you might have a tough time finding a $100 K home.

[drummer5000]

Originally Posted by Dean Trails

Nope, it is too chilly. You might see a few but not near the numbers of SoCal. The Bay Area has palms as the ocean influence moderates the temperatures but you might have a tough time finding a $100 K home.

one time i lived in the mountains and there was this house with 2 palm trees in little green houses, I think he still ended up replacing the trees once a year but he never gave up. lol

[wburg]

Originally Posted by Dean Trails

Nope, it is too chilly. You might see a few but not near the numbers of SoCal. The Bay Area has palms as the ocean influence moderates the temperatures but you might have a tough time finding a $100 K home.

I take it you don't live in Sacramento? There are a lot of palm trees here, you can find them as far north as Redding, which is a little colder tham Sacramento.

Sacramento doesn't get much chillier than the Bay Area. Palms also grow well in our hot summers.

[drummer5000]

Originally Posted by wburg

I take it you don't live in Sacramento? There are a lot of palm trees here, you can find them as far north as Redding, which is a little colder tham Sacramento.

Sacramento doesn't get much chillier than the Bay Area. Palms also grow well in our hot summers.

I know LOL these people are deluded, There are even a few palms in Portland, Or.

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by wburg

I take it you don't live in Sacramento? There are a lot of palm trees here, you can find them as far north as Redding, which is a little colder tham Sacramento.

Sacramento doesn't get much chillier than the Bay Area. Palms also grow well in our hot summers.

What I still find fascinating here is to see a large palm tree right next to a decent sized redwood. I didn't know they could grow in the same climate.

[wburg]

Palm trees and redwoods side by side is definitely something you don't find very often except around here--redwoods don't grow much farther south than central California, palm trees not much farther south than the northern Sacramento Valley.

We've got a pretty good climate for growing trees, although I have met folks who think that Sacramento is a desert climate and trees aren't native at all. Before Europeans arrived, there were enough oak trees around here to support a population of thousands of Nisenan: the staple of their diet was acorns.

[GLS]

Originally Posted by drummer5000

one time i lived in the mountains and there was this house with 2 palm trees in little green houses, I think he still ended up replacing the trees once a year but he never gave up. lol

I live above Placerville at about 2200 feet (snows 6 to 8 x/year), and have a Palm tree in the back yard that the previous owner planted. The tree is 20 feet tall and has survived fine since I bought the house in 1993.