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Old 07-15-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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Hello,

I am considering relocation to SLC from Massachusetts and want to know specifically about the following three issues:

1. Wages. It looks like wages are not particularly competitive, around 80-85% of the US average. Is this really true?

2. Promotion / upward mobility. I'm not LDS, and am genuinely considered about being passed up for promotions or "topping out" much sooner than otherwise expected because I am not LDS. It's illegal, but it does happen. My question is, how often do you think this happens? Should I be concerned?

3. Dating. I'm 26, male. While I'm not overly concerned with dating / meeting someone, I realize that I'm not getting any younger :P Is the dating scene for non-LDS really as dismal as they say? I'm not interested in dating LDS...I wouldn't want to deprive any LDS woman of a temple marriage.

I've already visited the area and really like it...weather, infrastructure, landscape, etc. Thanks in advance!
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: West Jordan, UT
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Hello,

I am considering relocation to SLC from Massachusetts and want to know specifically about the following three issues:

1. Wages. It looks like wages are not particularly competitive, around 80-85% of the US average. Is this really true?

2. Promotion / upward mobility. I'm not LDS, and am genuinely considered about being passed up for promotions or "topping out" much sooner than otherwise expected because I am not LDS. It's illegal, but it does happen. My question is, how often do you think this happens? Should I be concerned?

3. Dating. I'm 26, male. While I'm not overly concerned with dating / meeting someone, I realize that I'm not getting any younger :P Is the dating scene for non-LDS really as dismal as they say? I'm not interested in dating LDS...I wouldn't want to deprive any LDS woman of a temple marriage.

I've already visited the area and really like it...weather, infrastructure, landscape, etc. Thanks in advance!
Wages are lower here. We have too many colleges/universities pumping out too many graduates for the job market. When I lived in Vegas, I made 25% more than I do now for the same position (government).

I have not seen any job mobility issues, and I work for a very conservative local government.

I can't comment on the dating scene.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:13 PM
 
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Besides all the universities and their students doing practica/internships, many locals refuse to leave the area and their very close families. Keeps a large supply of potential employees on hand.

Promotions depend on the work you find. Some places are pretty entrenched locally but many are not. Alpha Graphics moved their HQ here a few years ago, for ex.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:17 PM
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I do recall a male friend in his 20's who was passed up for promotions - because he was not married - and didn't have a family. He kept his private life - private. This, of course, was 15 years ago.. And yes, discrimination does occur. If your employer is in the private sector and a local company - there's much more difficulty.

Look for a job with companies that are national - not locally owned.

Labor is not strong here in Utah - it's a "right to work" state. So if you have a dispute with an employer - the state agency that oversees disputes is the Industrial Commission - and I can tell you from personal experience - they are inept. Completely.

In government - they should know better - but often, do not.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:31 PM
 
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Clearly I am having difficulty typing tonight. I mean "genuinely concerned" rather than "genuinely considered."
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Wages are lower here. We have too many colleges/universities pumping out too many graduates for the job market. When I lived in Vegas, I made 25% more than I do now for the same position (government).

I have not seen any job mobility issues, and I work for a very conservative local government.

I can't comment on the dating scene.
And yet you were willing to give up that 25%...for some reason!
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:11 AM
 
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About the dating...I don't think it would be much of a problem...by 26 most LDS girls are married w/a few kids.
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:30 AM
 
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And yet you were willing to give up that 25%...for some reason

I'm not that poster, but I can easily see why someone would give up a significant amount of wages to move from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City. Ever been to Vegas? Let's just say its not the most scenic place in the world, its very hot in the summer, and if you live there you better like hanging out at casinos because that is about all there is to do. On top of all of that, the cost of living is higher there. Of course, maybe since the recession its come down. However, the economy in Nevada really stinks right now with unemployment at about the 13% to 14% range.

You asked about wages and job advancement. These are completely reasonable questions. What you fail to address though are "quality of life" issues.

Most (not all) people who live in Utah choose this state as a place to live for reasons other than high wages--or even necessarily job advancement.

Why are most of us here than?

We're here because we have beautiful mountains in our backyards. We're here because we enjoy being able to access at least seven major ski resorts with an hour or so of driving from our homes. We're here because the crime rate is low compared to other places. We're here because on weekends we can drive south and vacation and vacation in no fewer than five national parks. We're here because Salt Lake City is better cared for than most other major cities and that makes it more enjoyable to walk around. We're here because Utah is a good place to raise a family. Finally, I can come up with ten other reasons for being here, but they revolve around "quality of life" issues. I don't live here because of the size of my paycheck. I'm sure it would be bigger if I lived elsewhere.

I'm not saying there is something wrong with your questions. I am saying that if money and advancement are your major goals in life there maybe better communities for you than this area. Wherever you decide to live you might always remember that money does not always equal happiness. Good luck.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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Ever been to Vegas? Let's just say its not the most scenic place in the world, its very hot in the summer, and if you live there you better like hanging out at casinos because that is about all there is to do.

I'm not saying there is something wrong with your questions. I am saying that if money and advancement are your major goals in life there maybe better communities for you than this area. Wherever you decide to live you might always remember that money does not always equal happiness. Good luck.
No, I've not been to Vegas, but I wouldn't want to live there either, so I understand that move, for sure!

I was waiting for someone to talk about quality of life...this attracted me to the city too. Yes, I might be willing to give some money and advancement up. If I weren't willing, I wouldn't be posting here. Rather, I am trying to get a sense of how much is typically given up for this amazing quality of life. Thanks for your response.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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Hmm, mobility is good, the fact that you are coming from outside will be an advantage to you.

Dating scene, hmmm. There are plenty of non-LDS ladies to date. If you come up to Park City and date you will experience what is comparable to an adult version of musical chairs, you just swap partners every once and a while to keep things fresh.

Oddly, you will have a nice pool of professional women to chose from, many physicians/professors/professionals in SLC are not LDS, and the ladies, if not married, will probably be non-LDS. Check out Match.com or some of the other dating sites to get a feel for the scene.

Happy hunting!
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