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Old 01-23-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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Basket weaving ... ???
Dunno what else would qualify ... !!!

But then *basket weaving* always comes up as a subject ...
Basket weaving gets a raw deal. My mother taught me to do it and it's really not as easy as it sounds. So irman, if you want to get together a group of agnostic and atheist kids, I'll volunteer to teach them basket weaving on their release time
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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So an anti-religion class. "Atheist" is much too broad of a term to use for that. There are atheists who don't want to be lumped into that category and mistaken for those people. The only "atheist" alternatives to seminary are school, work, and home, so there already are alternatives for atheists... From the standpoint of an irreligious person, there's no reason to feel like mormons are getting special treatment with seminary.

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Old 01-23-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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I believe that would be science... certainly no need for released time for that.

(and btw, I'm kind of partial to loom weaving myself, but pottery would work too, and those would probably be home and family or shop classes, so no need for released time for them either.)

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Old 01-28-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN (Utah transplant)
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Well, then, I guess you've all answered my question. Here's to seminary, and may they someday have an atheist alternative for my kids!
Well, I take it there isn't exactly an atheist orginization that meets regularly like churches do? Since that's the case I guess you could create your own alternative for your kids. You could request release time for them and teach them atheist principles a couple of periods a week, or however many days a week you want to do it. Based on some of the answers above, schools allow release time for whatever reason you like.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: West Jordan
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I am not LDS and I didn't have any problems in HS with Seminary being a factor. All my friends went and it seemed like they were all short credits but I think with the oversight of of school admin nowadays that rarely happens. I actually ended up graduating with 7 extra credits as did alot of kids that didn't go to seminary. Granted this was a few years ago. But my daughter didn't have any trouble at all either. There seems to be alot more tolerance now for familys that are not LDS. Lol tolerance. However... when it comes to public schools in general (my daughter is 19 and my son is 5) I would do anything at this point to get my son into a public charter or private school. The lack of money spent per child here and the number of student to parent ratio, I feel has significantly changed what and how children are being taught. It's sad.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Sorry I meant student to teacher ratio.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: PA/FL/UT
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qbsmore, I am curious. I have a 5 year old too. What things do you think they are not getting because of the lower per capita spent? Do you mean too many kids per teacher or things like no laptop per student? Just wondering. Thanks.
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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I'm also curious about what you mean when you say things have significantly changed in regard to the teacher-student ratio. The poor ratio has been the case for a looong time in Utah, it's not a new phenomenon.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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qbsmore, I am curious. I have a 5 year old too. What things do you think they are not getting because of the lower per capita spent? Do you mean too many kids per teacher or things like no laptop per student? Just wondering. Thanks.
To me it does not matter what the per student spending is but how the money is spent, there are states that spend $20,000 per student yet the schools are horrible.

I have been very impressed with the public school our kids attend. They have brand new Macs in the computer class, laptops that are brought to the upper classes and a lot of great amenities.

Utah has a lot of parental support and volunteers, that helps make up for lack of funding.
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