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Old 01-18-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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I've found several job prospects in and near Salt Lake City, but the more I read about the smog/inversion problem, the less I can see moving there. The initial appeal was being near a lot of open space, but daily life during smoggy periods looks unpleasant. I've been there 3 times over the years but only once (briefly) when the air was bad; at that time I didn't realize how extensive the problem could be.

Utah is known as a state that wants to repeal environmental regulations and open up more pristine desert land to mining, drilling and other industrial uses. Is there a lack of air pollution control (like gas station vapor-recovery nozzles) that contributes to the notorious smog? I don't understand people who protest those devices for reasons of "cost," as if clean air is just a luxury.

Is Utah full of AGW deniers, also? It baffles me that people can acknowledge smog as being man-made, but think other fossil fuel effects on the atmosphere are a "hoax." Apparently, the invisibility of CO2 gas challenges their perception.

I'm wondering if the LDS presence contributes to a noticeable anti environmental protection attitude Moderator cut: rude

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Old 01-18-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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It's more due to geography and vehicle polution. We lie in a narrow valley between 2 mountain ranges. Air is easily trapped.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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It's largely the mechanics of geography and meteorology. That combined with a couple million people in a relatively small area. You can pass all the environmental laws you want and there will still be a problem.

Utah is "full of" the same kind of people any other place is full of. This is not a place to debate "global warming" or religion, so I'd suggest dispensing with the rhetoric. There would be an inversion at times during the winter even if not a soul lived here. True, having too many people here, emitting whatever pollutants, will make that inversion dirtier. But if you want pristine air, ban human beings.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 11:49 PM
 
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It's more due to geography and vehicle polution. We lie in a narrow valley between 2 mountain ranges. Air is easily trapped.
You've addressed nothing in the original question. I know about the inversion effect already. I'm asking about the locals' attitude toward regulating air pollution, on top of all other factors.
 
Old 01-18-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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It's largely the mechanics of geography and meteorology. That combined with a couple million people in a relatively small area. You can pass all the environmental laws you want and there will still be a problem.

Utah is "full of" the same kind of people any other place is full of. This is not a place to debate "global warming" or religion, so I'd suggest dispensing with the rhetoric. There would be an inversion at times during the winter even if not a soul lived here. True, having too many people here, emitting whatever pollutants, will make that inversion dirtier. But if you want pristine air, ban human beings.
More people with anti-regulatory attitudes would logically make the air dirtier overall. Moderator cut: off topic I think my question has been answered in a subtle way already.

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Old 01-18-2011, 11:56 PM
 
Location: West Jordan, UT
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It's more due to geography and vehicle polution. We lie in a narrow valley between 2 mountain ranges. Air is easily trapped.
What she said.

It really isn't that bad. I don't notice it much. More in the winter than summer. I love that I can see most of the valley from my windows. I can see the U of U stadium, & the Bees stadium, along w/ downtown from my northeast windows. I am 45 mins drive & an hour from the U of U drive, easily. I love the bowl of the valley. Sometimes the inversion flares up, but, the positives way outweigh the negatives for me.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: West Jordan, UT
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It's more due to geography and vehicle polution. We lie in a narrow valley between 2 mountain ranges. Air is easily trapped.
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You've addressed nothing in the original question. I know about the inversion effect already. I'm asking about the locals' attitude toward regulating air pollution, on top of all other factors.
Okay, I don't feel Utahans try to contribute to air pollution more than others. We value our air & land (much of Utah is still public land, which is paradise for some of us. ) . Most do not smoke, but we do have alot of big trucks (I'm talking for families, not company ones) & diesel vehicles. If I had my way, diesel vehicles would be more taxed, but, that's my own rant. lol Utah does have the highest rate of natural gas vehicles & stations that sell such fuel, even though they don't sell them here yet.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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The inversion is at its worst the colder it is. When it is 15 out I really don't do a lot of hiking.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 12:09 AM
 
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What she said.

It really isn't that bad. I don't notice it much. More in the winter than summer. I love that I can see most of the valley from my windows. I can see the U of U stadium, & the Bees stadium, along w/ downtown from my northeast windows. I am 45 mins drive & an hour from the U of U drive, easily. I love the bowl of the valley. Sometimes the inversion flares up, but, the positives way outweigh the negatives for me.
Others, like a group of physicians, seem to disagree with that cheery assessment: Scrapbook (http://tinyurl.com/6aj74zx - broken link)
 
Old 01-19-2011, 12:21 AM
 
Location: West Jordan, UT
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Others, like a group of physicians, seem to disagree with that cheery assessment: Scrapbook (http://tinyurl.com/6aj74zx - broken link)
I'm usually cheery, & I'm not from here, I'm from down turned Ohio. Perhaps you should listen to this 'group of said physicians' & steer clear of our area. It doesn't sound as if it is right for you.

I have been to the San Fran area of the northern Cali area. Not sure where you are at/from. Very nice. I've been there twice, once foggy, once not. Notice I DIDN'T say smoggy, before you jump.

From your answers, it doesn't sound like there can be a 'right' answer for you. We aren't perfect here in Utah. Though many try. lol

Boy did I open myself into getting ripped into.
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