non-LDS family considering move to SLC (Ogden, West Jordan: transplants, how much, house)

[AZtempinUT]

I have been in Draper for 2 weeks now and am enjoying both the views and the people. Utah has a reputation for being a certain 'religion', but the truth of the matter is, Mormonism does not seem to be as out there as I heard it would be, feels just like places in AZ to me. Diversity has and definetly is breaking into this beautiful part of our country. I agree with other posts, If you know who you are and you enjoy life...make this what you want it to be and enjoy your stay. I am. Keep in touch ~ caber

[ngela Slater]

I was raised LDS (but I am no longer a member) and it is part of the 'word of wisdom' to not drink coffee, tea or caffinated beverages. I work for Starbucks and am moving from Phoenix to the Orem area next month. Starbucks are not easy to come by up there-but the market is growing rapidly!
Anyone with non LDS kids in school that can give me any feedback on how they are treated? That is really my only big fear about this move

[chazcrew]

ngela slater, I was just going to break the exciting news that there is, indeed, a Starbucks in Orem, by the University Mall, but then I reread your post and realized you work for them, so obviously you would know there's one there...I imagine you're going to work there!

So, rather than waste this post by deleting it, I'll just say hi and welcome. I keep hearing good things about the yummy non-coffee drinks at starbucks. Someday when I'm feeling thinner than usual, I'll try one!

[LongFolks]

I live near Visalia, CA. I too have been looking to move my family to Utah. Logan is one place that interests us because it is large enough to have everything we need (Shopping) and small enough to be a safe place to live.
I am LDS, so that would not be an issue.

Things I would like to know about Logan:
1. Are the LDS members a little too "concerned about your welfare"? (i.e. Nosey?)

2. How are the schools?

3. How bad is the winter weather? (My wife grew up in Arizona, don't know how she would adjust to driving in snow.)

4. Is crime rate rising?

We are looking at moving in about 2 years after she finishes the nursing program. So...

5. How are the hospitals there? More than one?

Thanks.....

[TellingitLikeitis]

Hi, I made the mistake of moving to Utah- due to medical reasons/ military. Well I will tell you that in my heart I am not a Morman. But when I met people up hear it was the first question they asked so I fibbed and said yes, since I was attending as a teenager maybe once due to a marrage gone bad. Well I was shocked what a cult it is, these people are NUTS. I feel sorry for the women especially. Wow do they invade your life if they think your a Morman. My advice for you is be yourself tell them you are not a Morman they you will be okay here. It is good if they avoid you. Keep the crazys away. I would move to the Ogden areas, many non mormans. If must be in SLC go to Sandy area. Just stay away from the Mormans, many are thieves and very evil, there only goal is to convert you, the niceness is taught to get you to convert. They believe they are superior to the non mormans and that they are the only ones going to Heaven. They were raised this way, they don't know the truth themselves, be very careful and ovoid them. With luck much more non mormans will move here which is predicted statistically and they won't be able to play there games on domination and being better when they are finally in the minority here. Watch your bACK!

[coolcats]

Originally Posted by TellingitLikeitis

Hi, I made the mistake of moving to Utah- due to medical reasons/ military. Well I will tell you that in my heart I am not a Morman. But when I met people up hear it was the first question they asked so I fibbed and said yes, since I was attending as a teenager maybe once due to a marrage gone bad. Well I was shocked what a cult it is, these people are NUTS. I feel sorry for the women especially. Wow do they invade your life if they think your a Morman. My advice for you is be yourself tell them you are not a Morman they you will be okay here. It is good if they avoid you. Keep the crazys away. I would move to the Ogden areas, many non mormans. If must be in SLC go to Sandy area. Just stay away from the Mormans, many are thieves and very evil, there only goal is to convert you, the niceness is taught to get you to convert. They believe they are superior to the non mormans and that they are the only ones going to Heaven. They were raised this way, they don't know the truth themselves, be very careful and ovoid them. With luck much more non mormans will move here which is predicted statistically and they won't be able to play there games on domination and being better when they are finally in the minority here. Watch your bACK!

I hope you aren't as ignorant as your post makes you out to be, but I'm afraid you probably are. Fortunately it's so blatent, I doubt most people on this site will give you any credibility.

[rhetorwit]

What's all the scare about Mormons? I'm a non-mormon who happens to like, and even envy how they maintain DECENCY in their communities, good schools, good kids, and all-american values in general---they seem to be tax-paying, law abiding Americans---we need MORE of them from what I can see.

Where else do you find strong, wholesome communities if not in heavily populated Mormon areas? Given the ever-erroding condition of non-Mormon areas, gangs, crime, hoards of non-assimilating immigrants, the greedy materialistic californians I have to deal with in my business, maybe the LDS community should be talking about how fearful they are of YOU coming to them---ever thought of that?

Like my grandpa used to say "the proof is in the pudding."

[Outsider]

We moved here 7 years ago and are very happy. You have to see the area from two perspectives. One is that it is very beautiful and if you like the outdoors there's tons to do from hiking fishing, golf and skiing to just sitting on your deck with a glass of wine (or beverage of choice). Many communities are predominantly LDS and the social aspects of that are that you tend to be excluded once you make it clear you are not converting. There is no overt attempt at conversion but you'll find out fairly fast that if you are not LDS you are not included. That said we made a conscious decision to put our children into Catholic school and there is a huge and beautiful school in Draper (Skaggscatholiccenter.org). We chose to do that and pay the fees of course and that's not everybody's cup of tea. We have also found that our friends tend to come from the non-LDS groups and that is fine. Our Mormon neighbors are not nasty or unpleasant but are just not welcoming - I heard it described as "they welcome you with open arms but no embrace" and that's true. As for Suncrest the earlier comments are accurate - it is high up on the top of the mountain and the wind blows and the snow and clouds will get you !! There are also some fairly serious geologic questions around the foundations of homes and whether in the event of an earthquake (and SLC can get earthquakes) the place would stay standing. Also since it's on top of the mountain- getting water etc up there is a potential problem. In addition while it's beautiful consider the commutes several times a day. Between running our kids to school, basketball, activities etc we find that we can be on the road quite a bit. If you're up there you better not forget the milk for breakfast as it's a long way down! South Mountain is excellent and we live in a very nice neighborhood in Sandy and are very happy - it's private and quiet but close to everything and right on Dimple Dell - if you want a gated community try Pepperwood in Sandy and homes in our area run $400 - $600K (just off Sego Lily which is 10000South). Hope that helps.

[dizzyvertigo]

I think shawn had a big point that if you take some people and judge their character as a whole, you get the whole catholic and muslim thing. That is so false, so don't do it to the mean mormon kids. I am lds and i will tell ya what, Some of the people in the church are mean, rude, judgmental. but their are most that are wonderful, loving, compassionate, and only want to include you becasue they want you to see what the gospel has given them and want you to recieve such happiness. Now even though i say some are rude, What church's PEOPLE are perfect?? The mormon Church's people aren't perfect, but the church gospel is becasue it is based on CHRIST the only PERFECT one of us so far! Im in orem, and actually was suprised how diverse it is compared to Ogden where i am from. Its the same no matter where ya go, GoOD PEOPLE, and some rude people. Sometimes people get offended if parent's don't let their lds kids go to a sleepover, or won't let them watch pg-13 movies, but is that against you personally? NO its becasue now days you can't trust anyone, that doesn't mean you but who knows if another kid at the sleepover won't do something? So don't be offended or have the attitude that people will be rude,. look deeper into why they are being mean? I have been mormon my whole life, and dated an atheist in highschool, but now that i am married i relize how hard to raise my kids if we didn't belive on the same stuff. Therefore lds kids tend to date lds kids cause you tend to marry those you date, however that isn't always the situation. A few letters back MORMAN is MORMON. I bet she doesn't even know what that word means. Don't feel bad for me, I am a woman and love the church, how are we evil? thiefs?? I agree that we have high values thats why orem was rated the top of family living! We don't even belive in SEX Before marriage! Once agian youll probably say I know a mormon who has had sex , well each to their own once again don't judge everyone on one person and no one is perfect, I myself didn't have it till my wedding night, so heck if i can do it ANYONE CAN lol. The majority of mormons try to strive better and become like Christ, so unless you think Christ is evil, i don't know how his church can be. hence,. THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS. Only reason missionarys or lds people teach you our religion or "CONVERT" you isn't for numbers, its becasue we belive its true, it gives us hope on Jesus Christ and lets us know who we are where we are and where we are going. Wouldn't you want someone to tell you the Truth if you didn't have it for your own? (whether youbelive it or not, thats why.) Move to utah and relize there are going to be jerks everywhere you go, and until you find that perfect place, let me know. p.s there were a lot of NON lds kids that would include themselves only and would only want to include mormon kids to dishon their belifs, so it goes both ways. Kids are kids. jerks are jerks. find more then just religion, race, sex, and find out who people really are. p.s LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR is not just a MORMON THing,. don't wait for someone to welcome you to the neighborhood, take THEM cookies and welcome them as your new neighbors and that your new in town. Many people are busy with their lives or are shy, be the peacemaker don't wait for someone else to do it by getting offended. I think groups that gather together that are non lds sometimes (NOT EVERYONE) talk about the lds people and divert themselves from it.. gossip will do that to u

[teachScout]

I am a single teacher thinking of moving to Sandy, Ut. I heard great things about the state and I am ready for change of scenery. However, I don't know much about the districts there. Are teaching jobs scarce or plenty?