PROS and CONS of Salt Lake City (and Utah) for prospective transplants (Orem: apartment complex, homes)

[kaytidid]

Originally Posted by youngblood_760

cons- just go on craigslist and look at the apartment listings.... MUST BE UP TO LDS STANDARDS... you get the picture

Which is just Utah shorthand/lingo for no smoking/drinking...apartments in other states ask that too. They just word it no smoking or drinking. If I were renting out a house or apartment I would certainly require no smoking or drinking and I am not LDS.

[yellowsnow]

I love Utah and think it's the most beautiful place I ever lived. I still go every chance I get.

LDS people are just like everyone else. There's both good and bad members of every religion.

People haven't talked about taxes much. I'll tell you I LOVED the food tax. Not because I had to pay it but because for once there was a tax that was fair. People who used the most, paid the most. I've always believed everyone should pay, but the people who use the system should pay more.

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[kaytidid]

My house, my rules. They don't like it, they don't rent from me. Simple as that.

[5280milehiguy]

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The listings in Utah, do state, specifically, no smoking, drinking, etc. So it appears as a Utah (close by) phenomenon. I still don't know how a landlord can enforce this, sounds discriminating to me.

[pitt_transplant]

Thanks for the info on this lingo..I would love to have a place with no smoking. It makes the building so much cleaner, and that whole no carcinogens floating through the air thing is good stuff.

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[US-Traveller]

It is not unique to Utah to prohibit drinking on rental property. I used to live in a dry town in Illinois and most apartments then prohibited drinking and smoking.

[SouthernBelleInUtah]

This thread had gotten way off topic. Please take your arguments about smoking/drinking/landlord/tennant rights to the Political forum. Take concerns about smoking/not smoking/being around smoke to the Health and Wellness forum.

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by kaytidid

Which is just Utah shorthand/lingo for no smoking/drinking...apartments in other states ask that too. They just word it no smoking or drinking. If I were renting out a house or apartment I would certainly require no smoking or drinking and I am not LDS.

I think it's more lingo for 'We're looking for people who are LDS'. If they want no drinking or smoking then they'd just say that, and many ads do. LDS Standards usually also means no opposite sex spending the night.

[cinnabon]

Originally Posted by 5280milehiguy

We'll you chimed in didn't you?.....but we are talking about having an adequate "entertainment district" in the confines of downtown Salt Lake City to generate an economic boost, to attract larger and more prosperous conventions, to generate an image that Salt Lake isn't so stiff, to have a place for skiiers to spend money in Utah at night as well as during the day, to have a more walkable downtown, one where you can walk down the street at night among other people.

So if we need to attract more bars to achieve this purpose, let's do it.

well said!

Originally Posted by silvad242

I understand your point of view, but I personally have never been interested in a 'night life' scene. I stand by my opinion that for me and my family the low bar count is a good thing.

See above. Even if you and your family don't go out bar hopping, we all benefit from this.

Originally Posted by youngblood_760

cons- just go on craigslist and look at the apartment listings.... MUST BE UP TO LDS STANDARDS... you get the picture

This kind of cr@p is mostly found in Provo and near BYU, but not so much in SLC.

Originally Posted by kaytidid

Which is just Utah shorthand/lingo for no smoking/drinking...apartments in other states ask that too. They just word it no smoking or drinking. If I were renting out a house or apartment I would certainly require no smoking or drinking and I am not LDS.

Smoking I understand and agree, but drinking - why?, that's nuts! Moderator cut: off topic

[lemon&lime]

PRO
Beautiful scenery
Winter magical
Ski Resorts and hiking close by
Shopping OK, outlets in Park City, Gateway etc
A lot of cool apartments downtown
Good job market
Area not super exciting but not boring either
Low crime
Interesting neighborhoods including the suburbs
Area has "nice clean" feeling
A lot of people mind their own business and are not nosy
Olympic City, pro sports
Growth oriented, great city leadership
Area really is "the place" irregardless of religious factor

CON
People not friendly enough
Tendency to feel "left out" of predominant LDS culture
LDS culture hard to understand or relate to
Housing not as accessible or affordable in suburbs
Inversions and scary early morning snow
Winters too cold for southern types
Smog
Overdevelopment to south
Fake culture of beautiful people, hard to be an ugly or average person
Depressing weather