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Old 10-05-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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What I find amusing, as someone who doesn't even live in Stone Oak is that there are with some exceptions two groups of people in this thread. Those that live in Stone Oak and think it's great, and those that don't live in Stone Oak and complain about the place. Kind of makes you go ...
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Old 10-05-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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* A faux sense of middle or upper-middle class living
BN
how could you fake being a middle or upper middle class??? duh
you don't have to fake it... its a fact...
see demographics below *taken from internet

Population
Total Population 40593
Male Population 19833 (48.86 %)
Female Population 20760 (51.14 %)
Percent Change Since 1990 %
Percent Change Since 2000 128.0 %
Density (Persons per sq. mile) 1497.00
Median Age 34.84
Employment
White Collar 10518
Blue Collar 3044
Households
Total Households 13199
Family Households 10567
Non-Family Households 2632
Households With Children 6731
Households Without Children 6470
Average People Per Household 3.08
Education
Number of people who have achieved the following levels of education:
No High School 322
Some High School 488
Some College 4860
Associate Degree 1903
Bachelors Degree 8504
Graduate Degree 6389
Income / Financial
Average Household Income $122,981
Median Household Income $113,558
Median Income Under 25 $56,538
Median Income 25-34 $102,252
Median Income 35-44 $113,713
Median Income 45-54 $131,490
Median Income 55-64 $133,113
Median Income 65-74 $90,316
Median Income Over 75 $49,836
Percent increase/decrease in income since 1990 105.0 %
Percent increase/decrease in income since 2000 25.0 %
Average Household Net Worth $1,030,156
Median Household Net Worth $335,388
Median Home Sale Price $319,200
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Old 10-05-2010, 01:33 PM
 
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There's a huge difference between being upper middle-class and credit crunching your way into the demographic. Cut & pasting statistics, without any attribution as to where they came from, isn't a clear view of anything. Unlike many who complain about Stone Oak, I LIVED there for years, so I've got a better view of how the burb tends to function.

As someone mentioned in this thread already, there are a lot of $200k/year 'millionaires' in Stone Oak. That's facade, plain and simple. It actually reminds me a lot of the Las Vegas vacationist mentality: If you spend enough (on plastic), people might actually think you're a 'big roller.' The truly scary part comes when that Visa bill is opened and you can't figure out how to pay for living large.

I'm not saying that all of Stone Oak practices this ideology- I don't want make blanket statements. I simply saw a lot of this while I lived there. I didn't feel it was a friendly place to live, the traffic left quite a bit to be desired and SO had no real sense of community... No pride in itself. Not real pride, at least. Living in Southtown now, I really feel the residents here take great care of each other and the neighborhood. We smile at one another. We KNOW each other.

Granted, Southtown is a whole lot smaller in footprint than Stone Oak. That likely has something to do with it.




BN
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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There's a huge difference between being upper middle-class and credit crunching your way into the demographic. Cut & pasting statistics, without any attribution as to where they came from, isn't a clear view of anything. Unlike many who complain about Stone Oak, I LIVED there for years, so I've got a better view of how the burb tends to function.

As someone mentioned in this thread already, there are a lot of $200k/year 'millionaires' in Stone Oak. That's facade, plain and simple. It actually reminds me a lot of the Las Vegas vacationist mentality: If you spend enough (on plastic), people might actually think you're a 'big roller.' The truly scary part comes when that Visa bill is opened and you can't figure out how to pay for living large.

I'm not saying that all of Stone Oak practices this ideology- I don't want make blanket statements. I simply saw a lot of this while I lived there. I didn't feel it was a friendly place to live, the traffic left quite a bit to be desired and SO had no real sense of community... No pride in itself. Not real pride, at least. Living in Southtown now, I really feel the residents here take great care of each other and the neighborhood. We smile at one another. We KNOW each other.

Granted, Southtown is a whole lot smaller in footprint than Stone Oak. That likely has something to do with it.

BN
SA in general are warm and friendly people...
Texans in general are warm and friendly people...
Southerners in general are warm and friendly people...
Stone Oak is in all these subsets.... so please....

living in so much credit?? ahhh have you heard its american way of life? not stone oak per se...
keeping up with joneses can happen anywhere.. not just stone oak...

what you are saying againts SO can be said to any place ... depending on who is looking... depending on somebody's perspective in life...

*sigh

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Old 10-05-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Unlike many who complain about Stone Oak, I LIVED there for years, so I've got a better view of how the burb tends to function.




BN, I have read in your previous posts that you rented an apartment in SO.... I'm not sure how you can ever know how life really is in our subdivisions, my neighbors lookout for each other. Maybe the other transplants that you rented with were unfriendly but on a every day basis I feel that most of the people I come into contact with are very nice and friendly. You have a right to voice your opinion of SO and the burbs, but think it's kind of one sided.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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410 E is smooth sailing during rush hour, got to love all the new lanes that just opened. Also, I10 E is beautiful during rush hour, 70mph all the way into downtown! It takes me about 10 minutes to get to my loft downtown from work at I10 and Huebner.

Sure, your traveling the opposite of the traffic, go on 410 w and 1604& 110 w
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: SA
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Truth is if your happy where you live then why should it matter what other people think. The original poster is looking for a new neighborhood with chain stores and restaurants. So it makes sense to recommend SO or other similar neighborhoods. People who are familiar with SO can give their opinions why they like/or dislike the area. No one needs to get defensive of other people's opinions. I personally like the idea of new stores and family friendly areas. I however work downtown and would not like the idea of having to drive 40 miles round trip everyday, regardless of the traffic situation.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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Unlike many who complain about Stone Oak, I LIVED there for years, so I've got a better view of how the burb tends to function.


BN, I have read in your previous posts that you rented an apartment in SO.... I'm not sure how you can ever know how life really is in our subdivisions, my neighbors lookout for each other. Maybe the other transplants that you rented with were unfriendly but on a every day basis I feel that most of the people I come into contact with are very nice and friendly. You have a right to voice your opinion of SO and the burbs, but think it's kind of one sided.

If you go back further, you'll also see that I went from renting in Stone Oak to owning a home in the Champion's Ridge subdivision. I lasted there a year, sold my home and moved.

My opinion, yes, is my own. I don't think it's one-sided, as I've given the area a full shot, but don't hold it against anyone who liked or currently likes living there. Never once have I said people were wrong or silly for living there... This is an apples and oranges debate... Always has been.

If you're happy in Stone Oak, I'm happy for you. Honest



BN
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:38 PM
 
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The homes here are rather cookie-cutter in the non-gated, non-custom home subdivisions, but in those that have custom-made homes, like the one I currently live in, the design, architecture and amenities are top-notch and could not possibly be labeled "cookie-cutter". That said, if you DO live in a cookie-cutter home, why not focus on making it unique via gardening and amenities (as we did in our old "cookie" home: we planted several trees and plants, put in a deck with a hot tub and small things like that). The deck with a hot tub also meant we had to do less mowing! That was fantastic!
I can't speak for your house without seeing it. It may very well be custom-made(or not).

However I see word "custom" applied way too loosely to homes being built today.

Chances are your floorplan may be the same as the house two blocks down but you will never know it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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As someone mentioned in this thread already, there are a lot of $200k/year 'millionaires' in Stone Oak. That's facade, plain and simple.
What?

At 200K a year in income you are well into the top 5% of earners and are the exact kind of person in a position to become Millionaire if not already.

Someone did say "30K a year millionaire" which is a common expression. Taking a swipe at someone making 200K a year is a pretty far fetched stretch if your intent is to say they are "faking it"

200K a year isnt "rich" but it sure is doing very well and for sure better than most others.
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