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Old 09-30-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Sadly it seems we have a growing trend. Another teen suicide:

Another San Antonio teen commits suicide | WOAI.COM: San Antonio News
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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Just knowing someone who has committed suicide increases your own chances.

It also turns out these kids are associated with the wolf pack crowd.

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Old 10-01-2010, 05:52 AM
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I hope the parents of the wolves are taking extra time with their kids, talking to them, etc. Not that parents of non-wolves shouldn't be, but after two this seems to be a group thing. I hope there aren't any more. And I am in no way disparaging wolves or their parents--the story makes it out to be a "wolf thing". Either way, a senseless suicide is sad and I hope they are taking steps to prevent another one.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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My 1st question would be "Are High School providing counseling for kids like that?"
Or is that one of the things that has been cut because people don't want to pay 10 cents more in taxes a month?
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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The counselors are involved as well as police at this point. What is PTA doing? What are parents doing?

I read a comment somewhere else that said "Brandeis administrators need to get to the bottom of this before they let this get out of control".

Admin and counselors are doing everything they can. The suicides aren't happening at school and schools cannot control what someone does say Sunday night at home. Parents aren't even seeing the warning signs.
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:35 AM
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Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Anyone remember the movie "Heathers"?

This is just sad.
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Here
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My 1st question would be "Are High School providing counseling for kids like that?"
Or is that one of the things that has been cut because people don't want to pay 10 cents more in taxes a month?
Yes. It must be the schools fault along with those greedy taxpayers.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:06 AM
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Location: New Braunfels, TX
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My 1st question would be "Are High School providing counseling for kids like that?"
Or is that one of the things that has been cut because people don't want to pay 10 cents more in taxes a month?
MY first question is - what are the parents doing to be more proactive?!?? Why is it society's issue - the kids spend more time at home in the custody of their parents - why are THEY not more involved.

Look - this whole deal - "wolf packs", etc. - cries out that kids are NOT being engaged at home. If my kid came home with that kinda stuff, it'd be the last thing he/she did before being grounded for several months. You can't be a "friend" to your kids - you have to be a parent. That means you won't always be "cool", you won't always be a "bud" - but you WILL be the guiding force in their life, their rock of reference to "normalcy" and the person that keeps them on the straight and narrow.

All too often, kids are allowed to "express themselves", to "go outside the boundaries" as the parents live vicariously through them, thumbing their noses at societal norms. I see much of that on some of the posts here, as some members try to justify bad behaviour, outrageous comments and just plain anti-social actions. Anarchy for the sake of anarchy can only lead to a breakdown in society - and at some point, folks are going to have to wake up and realize it.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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My 1st question would be "Are High School providing counseling for kids like that?"
Or is that one of the things that has been cut because people don't want to pay 10 cents more in taxes a month?
I'm pretty sure politics didn't have anything to do with this. Our schools are funded just fine. This child's problems went way past your precious tax issues.

It's a horrible thing for this family and I pray that they find some sort of comfort.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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If my kid came home with that kinda stuff, it'd be the last thing he/she did before being grounded for several months.
Some kids perhaps would join a wolf pack when they have parents at home whose answer is to ground them for expressing themselves instead of simply communicating.

Maybe some of these kids were bullied? We do not know....but if grounding them is the answer for all that maybe it is the wrong answer.

In either case a tragedy has occurred and I doubt forcing them to change their style or grounding them could have averted it.

Communication and connection is what averts suicides. Many parents are willing to talk yet refuse to connect and wonder why their kids clam up...it is because when they do talk some parents do not listen, just disapprove, or try to dominate the conversation with their view being the only accepted one. That is not communication though.

The following quote from the original wolf pack story says it all, they turn to each other for problems, consider each other as family, so where is the real family? Perhaps too busy to care about their child's problems, perhaps they think the only problem they have to address is their style of dress while ignoring the other 'real' problems?

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The pack? We're a family. We go to each other for our problems.
http://www.kens5.com/news/Teen-wolve...-94015234.html
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