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Old 05-03-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I have heard all the problems of the State not having enough money to fund education as well as other shortfalls. I have been gambling in Las Vegas,New Orleans,Miami and San Diego and I have not seen the problems that political opponents talk about who try to make it into something evil.

Sure people may become addicted to it just as they are to other vices such as drinking and smoking. I have seen people at convenience store buying several high dollar scratch card tickets. The elderly people in Bingo Halls who are there occassionally obviously enjoy being there .There is also the occassional person down on their luck looking for handouts but this exists here even without casinos.

Casinos generate money from tourists who have seen all of San Antonio's attractions in one day. Casinos bring in management level positions , entertainers,chefs,valet staff,security personnel and various other jobs depending on its size. The areas around the casinos are upgraded just look at the Lucky Eagle Casino in the middle of no where now it to seeing a new transformation.

Louisiana and Oklahoma don't want Texas to have casinos because it takes away from their revenue and money they use to pay for schools, roads and other developments they wouldn't have. These places would not even be on the map If it weren't for us Texans that do gamble and see shows and concerts that bypass San Antonio. Just look at a casinos website excluding gambling and see if you like what they offer.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:23 AM
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Location: San Antonio
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You can wish for it all you want. The reality is that it won't be coming to Texas in the foreseeable future.

The governor doesn't want it, so he would never sign a bill to allow more gambling in Texas.

Most of the legislature doesn't want it, either. That is why it won't get past the current legislature in the form of a ballot issue or amendment to the state constitution that the voters could put into effect without the governor's input.

There are multiple threads about this in the Texas forum, which is the appropriate/on-topic for the forum place to discuss the statewide situation with the Governor and the legislature. The only reason this thread is still in this forum is that the original post had such specific references to the benefits to San Antonio.

This thread would be a good place to discuss the effect of casinos/gambling on the San Antonio area.

Last edited by Bo; 05-03-2011 at 01:40 PM.. Reason: Added a couple of words after afterthought.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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I'd be for it. The riverwalk shouldn't be changed to accommodate gambling because of the crowds it would generate, but I can see turning that useless barn called the Alamodome into a huge casino. A lot of people in Texas go out of state to gamble and cut loose...myself included.
Why not keep the revenue here? It would more than double the tourist trade here, and could be very beneficial to this poor town....IF it was planned correctly. Thoughts?
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Cali
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I'd be for it. The riverwalk shouldn't be changed to accommodate gambling because of the crowds it would generate, but I can see turning that useless barn called the Alamodome into a huge casino. A lot of people in Texas go out of state to gamble and cut loose...myself included.
Why not keep the revenue here? It would more than double the tourist trade here, and could be very beneficial to this poor town....IF it was planned correctly. Thoughts?
A Indian hotel/casino in the Hill country would be great!
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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It would turn downtown and the Riverwalk into a dump. No, thank you.
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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Indian or not, a casino would work well for San Antonio... Heck, for Texas in general. Why keep pumping neighboring states with cash when we could keep it in-state AND benefit various programs?

This rule is as backwards as why HEB and other local grocers won't carry hard liquor in their stores: I've been told it's because they consider themselves a 'Christian' corporation. I beg to differ: They sell tobacco (cancer) and other forms of alcohol (drunk driving, alcoholism), as well as encourage an already overweight city to fill their cart with more junk food. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of choice- which includes freedom to kill yourself in anyway you please (smoking, drinking, eating, etc)- but find it funny that HEB plays this selective hearing game with the sale of hard liquor.

What I want to ask is how would bringing in a casino turn the Riverwalk into a dump? Anymore of a dump than when City Council allowed mass chains to open down there? Anymore of a eyesore than when Planet Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe, Starbucks or Joe's Crab Shack opened up? What the Riverwalk was started as and what it's turned into are two very separate things. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that it's now anything more than a slick way for this city to massively profit from a circus-like atmosphere.




BN
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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This rule is as backwards as why HEB and other local grocers won't carry hard liquor in their stores: I've been told it's because they consider themselves a 'Christian' corporation. I beg to differ: They sell tobacco (cancer) and other forms of alcohol (drunk driving, alcoholism), as well as encourage an already overweight city to fill their cart with more junk food. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of choice- which includes freedom to kill yourself in anyway you please (smoking, drinking, eating, etc)- but find it funny that HEB plays this selective hearing game with the sale of hard liquor.
The reason that HEB and other local grocers don't sell hard liquor is because the state doesn't let them. In other states Walmart stores carry liquor. Obviously, if it were legal here, Walmart would carry liquor, and then HEB would have to in order to stay competitive.
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Indian or not, a casino would work well for San Antonio... Heck, for Texas in general. Why keep pumping neighboring states with cash when we could keep it in-state AND benefit various programs?

This rule is as backwards as why HEB and other local grocers won't carry hard liquor in their stores: I've been told it's because they consider themselves a 'Christian' corporation. I beg to differ: They sell tobacco (cancer) and other forms of alcohol (drunk driving, alcoholism), as well as encourage an already overweight city to fill their cart with more junk food. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of choice- which includes freedom to kill yourself in anyway you please (smoking, drinking, eating, etc)- but find it funny that HEB plays this selective hearing game with the sale of hard liquor.

What I want to ask is how would bringing in a casino turn the Riverwalk into a dump? Anymore of a dump than when City Council allowed mass chains to open down there? Anymore of a eyesore than when Planet Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe, Starbucks or Joe's Crab Shack opened up? What the Riverwalk was started as and what it's turned into are two very separate things. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that it's now anything more than a slick way for this city to massively profit from a circus-like atmosphere.




BN


So the logic is to just say, hey, why not? It's already crappy, let's just pile it on more because hey, maybe it'll work this time?

Every time we aren't responsible with our spending, we start looking for just anything to fix it. The tax on cigarettes in this state didn't work. The Lottery didn't work. Neither will gambling. By the time the special-interest groups and lobbyists have done their jobs, the schools will get very little other than more rules and regulations on how to spend their tiny percentage of profits.

How about the state and the districts working together to learn how to budget better? Oh wait, we're talking about bureaucrats on each end of this horse. My bad.

I'd like to see something work here...but the only place it seems to have carved out a niche is in Las Vegas. Let's face it, it's no Monaco.

Biloxi and Atlantic City are really the best examples of gambling rights gone amok. There were people I knew personally from MS that thought Katrina was good only in that it wiped out a lot of the crap casinos, so that MS could get it together again and regulate the hell out of the new builds. The majority of people in Southern MS agree that casinos took the charm right out of Biloxi and how it used to be. That is what gets me the most...
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:40 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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What I want to ask is how would bringing in a casino turn the Riverwalk into a dump? Anymore of a dump than when City Council allowed mass chains to open down there? Anymore of a eyesore than when Planet Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe, Starbucks or Joe's Crab Shack opened up? What the Riverwalk was started as and what it's turned into are two very separate things. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that it's now anything more than a slick way for this city to massively profit from a circus-like atmosphere.
BN

I have to agree that the Riverwalk is just a circus of franchise joints that you can find in any large city. Gambling would just compound that and might just fiinish off the Riverwalk completely and then start to eat away at the rest of the city. The only way I could support gambling in San Antonio would be to keep it outside the loop and north of 1604. That's where all of the money is right?
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Potranco/1604
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How about regulating the locations of the Casinos? Maybe restrict them to counties with only a limited number of people. To say that casinos will ruin San Antonio, I agree, if placed in the city limits. If placed outside the city limit and even the county, the income they provide to the State of Texas could benefit San Antonio and every city in Texas.
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