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Old 06-08-2011, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by The Black Irish View Post
That 80% is for people 25+ years old. Last time I checked Seniors graduate when they are 18 years old. That 80% is for those that dropped out, went back and got their GED. Which is great for them but is contradictory to what you originally stated.
What?

The way the Census calculates those figures is the same way for every city.

What exactly is the problem now teacher?

Wait, are you saying that entire statistic is for GED graduates only?

 
Old 06-08-2011, 06:51 PM
 
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If this is true, then "white collar job" in SA must mean any job where you collect an actual paycheck as opposed to living off of tax payer-funded entitlements. Even IF the median household income was in the $50,000 range (which I highly doubt), that's pretty pathetic. Everyone knows what a poor and under-educated city this is.

San Antonio is not a low wage city at all. I agree 100% with the OP.

I've posted this before but it gives a good example about wages in S.A.

In 2004, San Antonio's largest industry was Finance/Insurance (20.5 billion impact)
http://www.sanantonio.gov/news/NewsMayorCouncil/nrfinanceindustry.asp?res=1280&ver=true

From the article:


A new economic impact study shows that San Antonio’s financial industry is the city’s leading economic engine, generating more than $20 billion a year in jobs that earn an average annual salary of $52,612.

That was almost a decade ago so Im sure wages have risen.


In addition, San Antonio’s employment numbers in finance and insurance top other major Texas cities including Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston and Austin.


Then the article goes on to say!

“For years San Antonio has sold itself short in terms of perception of quality of employment and range of wages, but recent studies including this one, are helping to reshape our view of San Antonio,” said District 8 City Councilman Art A. Hall. “There is much to be done, but by developing an action plan to help strengthen the finance and insurance sector of our economy, and help build the rest of our economy through increased resources, we have the chance to truly impact, for the better, the future of San Antonio.
“These results put us in a different class of city. By having finance as our leading industry changes the way we and others will view San Antonio.”

Since this article I believe Heathcare/BioMedical has taken the number one spot with an impact of neary $30 billion. The second largest healthcare/biomedical hub in Texas. I would say it is safe to say, that the high paying jobs out number the low paying jobs in this industry.

Then other major industries in San Antonio after Healthcare and Finance are, Dept of Defense, manufacturing, Info Technology and then TOURISIM, which is huge. Aerospace is another major industry, over 50 aerospace companies call San Antonio home, and Im sure they are not low wage jobs.

San Antonio is not a low wage uneducated service town in the slightest! San Antonio is actually weathier than Austin when you look at the latest Personal Metro income stats for 2010!

So let the haters believe what they want. The facts seem to go in one ear and out the other! IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY! SO WHATS NEW?

Last edited by SweethomeSanAntonio; 06-08-2011 at 07:05 PM..
 
Old 06-08-2011, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think I should have used the word "bashers" and not "haters". I used it to be serious but somewhat funny but I guess that was lost in translation. lol

Last edited by LookingatSA; 06-08-2011 at 07:11 PM..
 
Old 06-08-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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I'm sure.

But then again, there are millionaires out there saying their 150,000 salary isn't "enough" to support a family. lol
it isn't!
 
Old 06-08-2011, 07:47 PM
 
Location: West Creek
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Where are the Drunk and Alcoholic percentage getting factored in?
 
Old 06-08-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Houston (Bellaire)
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I really dont consider an $8/hr call center job "white collar".

They forgot the foot note to the 76% "Of those that actually work in San Antonio".

What is the % that live entirely off government assistance and dont work at all?

I would also like to see a breakdown of the household income...how many of those are retirees?
Can't break income down by employment status, but SA's household income distribution is most certainly biased towards the middle/low end compared with the other major Texas cities.

% of households in the MSA making over $100k/yr., 2009, American Community Survey by US Census Bureau:

Houston: 23.6% (472,168 households)
Austin: 23.5% (144,346)
DFW: 23.4% (514,615)
SA: 16.5% (116,794)

...and it has the highest % on the low end - less than $25k:

SA: 26.3% (181,550)
Houston: 22.8% (456,492)
DFW: 21.2% (466,739)
Austin: 19.7% (120,656)

Clearly SA is the only of the four where there are more low-earning households than (relatively) high-earning households.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jr1038 View Post
Can't break income down by employment status, but SA's household income distribution is most certainly biased towards the middle/low end compared with the other major Texas cities.

% of households in the MSA making over $100k/yr., 2009, American Community Survey by US Census Bureau:

Houston: 23.6% (472,168 households)
Austin: 23.5% (144,346)
DFW: 23.4% (514,615)
SA: 16.5% (116,794)

...and it has the highest % on the low end - less than $25k:

SA: 26.3% (181,550)
Houston: 22.8% (456,492)
DFW: 21.2% (466,739)
Austin: 19.7% (120,656)

Clearly SA is the only of the four where there are more low-earning households than (relatively) high-earning households.

Link please! Condradictions to metro personal income for 2009 stats when comparing San Antonio to Austin for overall income generated and with comprable workforces populations, SA earns $12 billion more. I'll look for the link.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Even if those stats you posted are correct a few percentage points is not a significant difference to make any of those cities much more affluent. Then when you factor the higher cost of real estate etc in Austin for example, those percentage ponts dissappear when you factor in, cost of living for housing and, the disposable income level drops for at least in Austins case. There are many ways to look at things.

Last edited by SweethomeSanAntonio; 06-08-2011 at 09:12 PM..
 
Old 06-08-2011, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio View Post
Link please! Condradictions to metro personal income for 2009 stats when comparing San Antonio to Austin for overall income generated and with comprable workforces populations, SA earns $12 billion more. I'll look for the link.
It's the American Community Survey, aka The Census Bureau.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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No problem. I can backup my claims.

Bexar County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

No worries, you never had credibility with me and if you did, you lost it when you said you are a teacher.
Travis / Bexar
Per Capita: $31,578/$22,557 (+40%)
Household: $53,434/$45,315 (+18%)

I would speculate the gap between HH and per capita incomes has to with household size and number of children (non-wage earners) differences between the two cities.

Travis / Bexar
High School: 85.7%/80.5% (+6.5%)
College Grad: 43.1%/24.6% (+75%)


Travis County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
Bexar County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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