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Old 06-17-2011, 06:18 AM
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There are worse. I believe persons whose lives have been affected
by DWI might understand.
Might understand what, exactly? Your definition of "ghetto"? How to paint a house when inebriated? The living conditions in Detroit? Um, OK.

It's totally strayed from the OP.
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Old 06-17-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: NW San Antonio
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Majority of my posts are examples of how you can drink alcohol as a responsible adult and not go out drinking and driving and kill innocent people. Also, how you can go out and get wasted at a bar as long as you have a plan beforehand on how to get home or a place to stay which I do every time. Where ghettos and Detroit came into play is beyond me? Here is a question; How many alcohol related accidents will we have this weekend? I am going to go with six. I am not making light of the subject, but it just shows people are not responsible for their actions.
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Ghettos and Detroit came from people with no leg to stand on. You know the classic: well, then, hey, look at that rabbit over there..

and I'll take a million drunks in their houses over one on the road and one that is trying to make their house look better is a triple score
hell, I'll supply as much beer as needed if they want to keep on painting over at my place...
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:50 AM
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It is just annoying when one of us gets reported as off-topic and then a whole thread like this meanders all over the place.
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NW San Antonio
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How would you know if you are reported as being off-topic? Just curious and wondering if I have ever been reported??? And rd outside looks good, now to tackle the inside. Ceilings are not fun and my arms feel like they're going to fall off! Couple beers should loosen em up
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:36 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Since this was so much fun, I thought I'd post an update...

Bar Employees Could Face Charges In Officer's Death - San Antonio & Texas News Story - KSAT San Antonio (http://www.ksat.com/news/28412863/detail.html - broken link)

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SAN ANTONIO -- Three bar employees could face criminal charges for serving alcohol to the wrong-way driver who hit and killed Officer Stephanie Brown.

The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission believes the employees from the Flying Saucer and Oak Hill Tavern should be held responsible for serving drinks to Christopher Baldaramos, who also died in the crash.

...

If charged and convicted, the employees could face a fine of up to $500 and up to a year in jail.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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Default Fair enough penalty,

For not cutting off an overintoxicated person at a Tavern. One year in jail.
This just might limit the hiring of dimwitted bartenders and in some way hopefully, may assuage the grief of the fallen officer's family.
This is one hell of a thing to be answerable for........
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Since this was so much fun, I thought I'd post an update...

Bar Employees Could Face Charges In Officer's Death - San Antonio & Texas News Story - KSAT San Antonio (http://www.ksat.com/news/28412863/detail.html - broken link)
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I think it is wrong to hold the bars/bartenders responsible.

Many people can be highly intoxicated and not appear "sloppy drunk"....especially to a complete stanger, who is not familiar with that persons normal mannerisms when sober, to compare to their mannerisms when intoxicated.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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Default All True,

But, for the sloppy drunk , keep track of behaviors. And don't serve
too much to anyone.
It is akin to giving chidren too much leeway. Someone has to be
responsible and have the judgement of when enough is enough, and it won't be the intoxicated person. Turning these intoxicated people loose onto the street for a profit needs to have some ramifications.
If the drunks left on horseback, at least the horse might find it's way home safely. Drunks don't even have horse sense.
I jest but this is not a laughing matter and though drunk driving jokes may seem innocuous, drunk driving is not. It is crazy, stupid.
Anyone of us can become a victim.
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I think it is wrong to hold the bars/bartenders responsible.

Many people can be highly intoxicated and not appear "sloppy drunk"....especially to a complete stanger, who is not familiar with that persons normal mannerisms when sober, to compare to their mannerisms when intoxicated.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Have you ever been in a bar/nightclub that is totally crowded, with 3 or 4 bartenders and perhaps hostesses, frantically serving drinks because they can barely fill the orders as fast as they come in?

Every place that serves alcohol isn't like "Cheers", where there are never more than a dozen patrons at a time and everyone "knows my name".

How could any server be expected to keep track of how much any one of those patrons drinks throughout the evening........being served by several different bartenders?

And lets not forget the barhoppers, that go from bar to bar only having a couple of drinks at each one.

It is just not fair to hold bartenders responsible.
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