SuperStreet 281/1604 Red Light Fails To Be Efficient (San Antonio, Trinity: high school, to move)

[Backliteyes]

Originally Posted by Soviet

Sounds easy in theory. Problem is, we need a whole lotta these weird little green papers. I see them all the time.....they keep leaving my hand for some reason & I get nothing in return! (especially with women )

Seriously, though, we needed cheap solutions & the Super Street was relatively cheap. Problem is with the light timings.

No, I wasn't trying to say it would be easy at all. Or that it was feasible currently given the costs. I'm just pointing out that it's the ideal solution - you wouldn't have to get antsy at 5 min. reds with no cross traffic, and MMM wouldn't have to take a principled stand that makes it sound like he wouldn't run the red if it stayed that way for an hour lest he break the law.

[Merovee]

Actually there is some truth in reducing traffic signals and other elements from roads to make them safer! Posted this before. Here it is again. It has nothing whatsoever to do with anarchy...but with research.

In the last decade or so, a few iconoclasts have begun making streets more hazardous—narrowing them, reducing visibility, and removing curbs, center lines, guardrails, and even traffic signs and signals. These roads, research shows, are home to significantly fewer crashes and traffic fatalities.

Outside In: Street Smarts | Psychology Today

The way to stop Soviet from running that red light is to build a strip club at that intersection. He will be too busy looking to see if a stripper walks out he will miss the green light two or three times. That or one of the bikini beer garages where they sit outside on a highchair.

[Soviet]

Originally Posted by Merovee

Actually there is some truth in reducing traffic signals and other elements from roads to make them safer! Posted this before. Here it is again. It has nothing whatsoever to do with anarchy...but with research.

Outside In: Street Smarts | Psychology Today

The way to stop Soviet from running that red light is to build a strip club at that intersection. He will be too busy looking to see if a stripper walks out he will miss the green light two or three times. That or one of the bikini beer garages where they sit outside on a highchair.

SO TRUE! I do love the ladies of the night......now if only I could take one home with me!

[sleeptech210]

Lol at putting people in danger! Ever been on this road around said time? It's dead! Now let's say if op runs the light around 5pm then yes he is a jack ass! But this is not the case... I'm tired of people quoting "the law is the law" our laws and justice system are severly broken and is just one big money making machine!

[majormadmax]

Yeah, that's why we never seen bad accidents at night on the roads around here!

[the_dimwit]

Wanna really confuse people in our fair city? Check this out--The Converging Diamond intersection

Home - The Diverging Diamond Interchange Website

Very cool, actually. Take people from one side of the road to the "wrong side" at key points along the way. Minimal traffic lights, no need for huge interchanges, etc.

--Dim

[rd2007]

Luckily for the revenue generators, there are still a few ignorant fools to fill their trough..

As a motorcycle rider, I am well aware of how jacked up a LOT of the lights are around here and I run several on a routine basis. I also call them in and they get fixed eventually, but fail again after a little while also. One of my biggest complaints about this city are the traffic lights and I've probably called in more broke ones than any one person should have to, but obviously maintenance and checkups are two foreign words to the city workers responsible for accomplishing that.

Trying to find the web page where you can report problems, but they either moved it or my brain isn't fully functioning yet. I'll look again later on, but there is one and I've posted it in the CD-SA section before.

[TrinityTiger]

I'm kind of changing the subject here...but I just have to say that I LOVE the new super street on 1604 from Shaenfield to Bandera because what used to take me 10 minutes to get through takes me less than 5 to get through now during rush hour...yes, it may be a pain in the butt for those of you turning onto 1604, but if I'm being honest...I don't care too much because my drive has become better!

Nah I'm just kidding, it does suck for y'all, but just call 3-1-1!

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by TrinityTiger

I'm kind of changing the subject here...but I just have to say that I LOVE the new super street on 1604 from Shaenfield to Bandera because what used to take me 10 minutes to get through takes me less than 5 to get through now during rush hour...yes, it may be a pain in the butt for those of you turning onto 1604, but if I'm being honest...I don't care too much because my drive has become better!

Nah I'm just kidding, it does suck for y'all, but just call 3-1-1!

I have to agree, because of an event at work I didn't leave until 4:15. Normally I would avoid 1604 like the so-called "BBQ" at Bill Miller's, but since these new lights went up I decided to see how things worked.

Well, I was very impressed! Sure, there's still a slowdown where 151 meets 1604, and again down near the Shaenfield intersection; but the traffic was nowhere near as bad as it used to be!

Before the superstreet was implemented, it wasn't uncommon for northbound traffic to be backed up as far as the Culebra overpass. Now it moves all the way through past Braun with a lot less congestion.

The bottom line is this new traffic pattern works! If that means the small minority that want to turn have to wait a bit longer to allow the volume of traffic to flow, then so be it. It's for the greater good.

But now it makes me wonder why in this effort to reduce the number of traffic lights in this area, there is an increase in lights just south on the same stretch of road. The addition of the light at Emory Peak is ridiculous, why can't those people drive the 0.6 miles south to the light at Marbach before turning north? It is what people in the area of the superstreet are subjected to do, and it would allow traffic to flow unimpeded from Marbach all the way to Potranco. The elimination of this light would benefit the greater good as well, instead of a select few who would be subjected to a whooping 39 second drive (according to GoogleMaps) to the turnaround at Marbach!

Cheers! M2

[HeyEng]

I too am happy about the 1604 super street. Coming home is a breeze now and for the record, I come off of New Guilbeau in the morning and will GLADLY sit at the light for a couple extra minutes so I can then breeze southbound.

I still am not sold on the "exit" for the 1604 to 151 intersection, but I guess we'll see soon.

Speaking of traffic... What the hell was the point of creating a lone left-turn lane at Old Tezel and New Guilbeau to only remove it a month later? Not only to mention the less than a year old sidewalk that was destroyed to add the left turn lane that is perpendicular to that intersection?!? I really don't understand TxDot.