What are the Negatives if any about SA? (Howe: to move, title)

[Tinabean]

Originally Posted by toc1996

If they left for California they made a big mistake. Have you looked at the economy out there. Can anyone say bankrupt. I moved to SA from Washington DC/Va and this by far a more friendly city with lots to offer.
Not sure who said or what you mean by the "up and coming biz and politicians".... If you don't like the city-Change the channel!

No, actually they are all doing very well in their businesses, although it is yet to be seen how the State budget crisis will impact their taxes, etc... No all businesses crashed and not all homeowners got upside down in their homes. The folks in Virginia love it there as well with no complaints...much more beautiful, more professional and cultural opportunities. And lastly, this thread specifically asked for the positives and negatives of one considering the city. I have every right to voice my opinions in response to the request for information. And this is exactly the attitude that is holding SA back in so many ways...... if you don't like it the way it is, corrupt and all, then leave! We can't handle the truth.

[HisLilSecret]

Originally Posted by Tinabean

And by the way,I'm originally from SC. We actually sent two of our HEROES (William Travis and James Bonham) who died there at the Alamo. So don't think you have the market cornered there on patriotism and love of country.

You SENT these two?!! Funny...William Travis was nine when his family moved to Alabama, so he grew up there. It was from there that he abandoned his pregnant wife and son and came to Texas. If you're defining this guy as a hero, you're definition is skewed!

James Bonham also lived and worked in Alabama prior to coming to Texas. Nobody SENT these two to here. They just decided to show up for the party.

If these are the only two "heroes" that you're claiming for SC, then, that's just sad.

[TexasNick]

The funny thing is is that just about 1hr north of SA, the weather is strangely different in terms of humidity and heat. For example, in Fredericksburg, it's usually 5degrees cooler. Last week I was in Stonewall and I couldnt' believe how pleasant the afternoon was. It's amazing what a 5 degree difference does.

[joyo1966]

After New York, America's safest cities are: San Jose, Los Angeles, San Diego, El Paso, Honolulu, Denver, Boston, Las Vegas and Louisville.

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According to your local news SA is expected to have the highest crime rate in thse US
SA: Highest Crime Rate in the Nation? | WOAI.COM: San Antonio News

As a resident of greater Boston public transportation is not good in SA either, but that is typical of many US cities.

[Tinabean]

Originally Posted by HisLilSecret

You SENT these two?!! Funny...William Travis was nine when his family moved to Alabama, so he grew up there. It was from there that he abandoned his pregnant wife and son and came to Texas. If you're defining this guy as a hero, you're definition is skewed!

James Bonham also lived and worked in Alabama prior to coming to Texas. Nobody SENT these two to here. They just decided to show up for the party.

If these are the only two "heroes" that you're claiming for SC, then, that's just sad.

No, these certainly aren't the only two heroes from SC. There is a long list of accomplished folks who were either born or spent time in S.C. But the purpose of my posts aren't to give you a history lesson on the Great State of S.C. Point taken about the men being "sent"....perhaps my phrasing was inaccurate....they did indeed choose to attend the "party" as you put it. My point was that South Carolinians participated in leadership roles there at the Alamo. A previous poster seemed to imply that we in SC don't honor our soldiers and are not patriotic. But turning to you, what is saaadddd, however, is that you downplay the sacrifice of Travis at the Alamo, which has nothing at all to do with his personal family situation. Seems like Texas sent a President to the White House who was a former alcoholic and cocaine user. That was in the past. Those issues in his past did not affect his ability to lead. He made some dire leadership mistakes, but that is a topic for another forum, but they had nothing to do with his prior personal mistakes in judgement. Each and every military leader and politician has made mistakes with their personal choices. Most are simply honored for their sacrifices and contributions, which is as it should be (mostly). Maybe you'll have the joy of making some great contribution and have it all canceled out because of one of your many personal mistakes....Oh, maybe not. Folks like you just like to sit back and berate those who actually have the audacity to DO SOMETHING that makes a difference. And how does it matter that both Bonham and Travis ultimately arrived at the Alamo via Alabama but on the memorial they are remembered as being from SC, their birthplace.

[Chaka]

To be fair, this is a thread about the negatives of SA, so tinabean has some validity to posting only negative impressions.

That said, snobbery is not usually something one associates with the people of San Antonio, and is subjective enough that it's most often related to the person's own behaviours.

[HisLilSecret]

Originally Posted by Tinabean

No, these certainly aren't the only two heroes from SC. There is a long list of accomplished folks who were either born or spent time in S.C. But the purpose of my posts aren't to give you a history lesson on the Great State of S.C. Point taken about the men being "sent"....perhaps my phrasing was inaccurate....they did indeed choose to attend the "party" as you put it. My point was that South Carolinians participated in leadership roles there at the Alamo. A previous poster seemed to imply that we in SC don't honor our soldiers and are not patriotic. But turning to you, what is saaadddd, however, is that you downplay the sacrifice of Travis at the Alamo, which has nothing at all to do with his personal family situation. Seems like Texas sent a President to the White House who was a former alcoholic and cocaine user. That was in the past. Those issues in his past did not affect his ability to lead. He made some dire leadership mistakes, but that is a topic for another forum, but they had nothing to do with his prior personal mistakes in judgement. Each and every military leader and politician has made mistakes with their personal choices. Most are simply honored for their sacrifices and contributions, which is as it should be (mostly). Maybe you'll have the joy of making some great contribution and have it all canceled out because of one of your many personal mistakes....Oh, maybe not. Folks like you just like to sit back and berate those who actually have the audacity to DO SOMETHING that makes a difference. And how does it matter that both Bonham and Travis ultimately arrived at the Alamo via Alabama but on the memorial they are remembered as being from SC, their birthplace.

Hey, you're the one who brought up the history lesson. Imagine...a South Carolinian giving a Texas history lesson to Texans! *lol* As for the president to whom you're referring...he's not a native Texan. He's from Kennebunkport. Seems to me that you should be doing some research before throwing "facts" out there.

As for folks like me, you don't know the first thing about me, so why are you making assumptions about what I do or don't do?

I believe the previous poster who was alluding to patriotism was trying to point out that you should note that people here, as in other places, do honor their fallen soldiers, which I believe would be considered something positive about San Antonians.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by HisLilSecret

I believe the previous poster who was alluding to patriotism was trying to point out that you should note that people here, as in other places, do honor their fallen soldiers, which I believe would be considered something positive about San Antonians.

I thought that poster was not alluding to patriotism so much as just a community gathering to support one of its lost (soldier or not) whom they didn't know, which exemplified the opposite of snobbery. Maybe I read that wrong.

[HisLilSecret]

Originally Posted by Chaka

I thought that poster was not alluding to patriotism so much as just a community gathering to support one of its lost (soldier or not) whom they didn't know, which exemplified the opposite of snobbery. Maybe I read that wrong.

I didn't think so either, but, apparently, Tinabean thought so, which is why I referred to the patriotism.

[voyager674]

Originally Posted by Tinabean

I have been "shaped" by the good values of my family, who were all hard-working, high-achieving business owners. I was also "shaped" by my global travels for 15 years with both tolerant and intolerant Americans, Europeans and Asians. I know what racism looks and acts like and, yes, unfortunately there is racism to be found still yet in SC. But from what I hear and see, there is a good healthy dose of it as well in Texas. And your veiled character assault of me by implying I'm racist because of what you encounted in SC is wrong.....my husband is Hispanic. Yep......you speak to exactly the type of attitudes that "shaped" my, and MANY OTHERS, opinions of SA. I observe and report the true aspects of the challenges there so of cooouuuurrrrsssseeee I must be a racist.

Yes, I know your married to an "Hispanic" and knew the point would be made sooner or later. However that aside, I'm glad to hear you are well-traveled. I, too, am well-traveled and have been to many countries less fortunate than ours, but, regardless of how unfortunate or destitute the local population may be or how inhospitable the terrain/climate conditions of the host nation are, my well-rounded up bringing has taught me to see the good in every place I've been, without having to feel sorry for myself over a couple of BBQ poorboys.

Despite my experiences in the south, I still see the good in Beaufort, SC. At the time, it was a learning experience. While there are cultural differences between SC and South Texas, in your last two replies when you draw you own parallels and examples with the folks in SC, SA is no less patriotic, no less supportive of its community and has the same issues that need to be resolved. Yet, even then, you see "nothing good in this hell hole" many of us call home. Nice!

After pondering this subject for a few minutes, I was left with the ironic thought that like great southern BBQ, southern "attitudes" are indelibly etched in the psyche of the American south.