11-05-2011, 09:10 PM
Location: Pipe Creek, TX
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And what about on a 2-lane road such as 1604?
11-05-2011, 09:31 PM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Soviet
Nope, it's revenue generation, all right. Otherwise they would give warnings.
People
are given a warning, it's called
the posted speed limit!
Give up on the claims that it's about revenue generation, Texas law prohibits it and much like quotas, the only place those things exist are in the minds of individuals who don't feel they should be held accountable for breaking the law...
And, to answer your question, both are dangerous. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two shows you don't really understand the point of traffic laws and the need to obey them!
11-05-2011, 09:32 PM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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HillCountryHotRodMan
And what about on a 2-lane road such as 1604?
What part of 1604 are you talking about? When there are two lanes in the same direction, you are required by law to keep to the right.
One lane each in each direction, I hope people know to stay to the right; but around here sometimes I wonder...
11-05-2011, 09:44 PM
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en28so
Oh trust me, they will try to pass you on the right, even if there's no lane to do it. I see them doing this all the time on Wolfe run where I live where we only have one lane. I guess like someone said before they are late to their funeral. Haven't they seen what happens when your car finally hits that tree from all that bad driving? They think nothing is going to happen to them because of ABS brakes, airbags and crumple zones.
You think that's bad. A few weeks ago, I was sitting at a red light in the right lane and someone was next to me in the left lane. Someone in a sports car pulled up right between us straddling both lanes so he could speed off ahead of us when the light turned green. I have to admit that I have contemplated passing everyone in the right shoulder when both lanes are going 30mph in a 45mph zone.
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majormadmax
No doubt, I had to "adjust" back to SA driving after being out of town for the past three weeks (I was in the Baltimore-Washington area before going to Omaha). I have never been a fan of the way many people drive here, which is why I would applaud greater traffic enforcement by the numerous law enforcement agencies in the area. While I know there are no quotas and that it is not for revenue generation, perhaps encouraging officers to enforce the laws would get people to think twice before driving like idiots. I don't believe the fines/penalties are harsh enough, as obviously they are not deterring people from endangering themselves and everybody else on the road. Perhaps if their wallets were made considerably lighter when caught, they'd be less apt to do so again in the future...
I don't think the fines are the issue. Most people probably get deferred disposition (probation), defensive driving, and/or reduced fines.
Do these types of threads always have to turn into an argument about revenue generation? LOL.
11-05-2011, 10:08 PM
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Do these types of threads always have to turn into an argument about revenue generation? LOL.
Considering the fact that revenue generation is an integral part of the topic at hand......yes.
Just imagine if ALL traffic violations stopped tomorrow. (LOL, what a dream) What do you think will happen? What do you REALLY think will happen? Ha.
11-05-2011, 10:30 PM
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Soviet
Considering the fact that revenue generation is an integral part of the topic at hand......yes.
I know San Antonians wouldn't drive any better. Since San Antonians don't like to use turn signals and like to tailgate, I don't even want to imagine what it would be like if they were doing this at 90mph.
11-06-2011, 05:22 AM
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People
are given a warning, it's called
the posted speed limit!
Give up on the claims that it's about revenue generation, Texas law prohibits it and much like quotas, the only place those things exist are in the minds of individuals who don't feel they should be held accountable for breaking the law...
And, to answer your question, both are dangerous. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two shows you don't really understand the point of traffic laws and the need to obey them!
I am not saying ticket revenue exists, but why do cities include "traffic ticket income" as part of their annual city budget planning?
11-06-2011, 07:48 AM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I am not saying ticket revenue exists, but why do cities include "traffic ticket income" as part of their annual city budget planning?
Because it does generate income, some of which does go to the city. However, claims that "quotas" are set or that tickets are given just to generate revenue are unfounded.
If such claims were true, then issuing traffic citations would be a very lucrative source of monies for the city; but as we all know enforcement in this town is lacking badly.
It's just whenever there is any enforcement, those unlucky souls who are caught breaking the law always find ways to blame others for their guilt.
Honestly, I believe the reason there isn't greater enforcement of traffic laws in this city are due to the restrictions under Texas law. Given how many traffic stops I see when in other places, San Antonio can easily be considered one of the least patrolled cities of its size in the nation!
11-06-2011, 03:57 PM
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Because it does generate income, some of which does go to the city. However, claims that "quotas" are set or that tickets are given just to generate revenue are unfounded.
If such claims were true, then issuing traffic citations would be a very lucrative source of monies for the city; but as we all know enforcement in this town is lacking badly.
It's just whenever there is any enforcement, those unlucky souls who are caught breaking the law always find ways to blame others for their guilt.
Honestly, I believe the reason there isn't greater enforcement of traffic laws in this city are due to the restrictions under Texas law. Given how many traffic stops I see when in other places, San Antonio can easily be considered one of the least patrolled cities of its size in the nation!
Well I have no problem with funding the city out of the pockets of those that think they are above the traffic laws. It seems to me that ticket revenue generation does exist but quotas do not. Talk of quotas is just "bubba talk".
11-07-2011, 07:31 AM
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You're assuming that people can see two cars ahead. I drive a sedan and often can't see around a truck or SUV. The car in front of you will react first and you'll react about 1.3 seconds later. During the 1.3 seconds, you have already traveled over 100 ft depending on the speed you're driving. If the car ahead of you had a 1.3s reaction time to the car ahead of it, you're already 2.6s behind in reacting. The state of Texas recommends a 2 second following distance and so does the UK. Other states recommend a 3 second following distance. If you aren't going to following the 2s rule, then at least add a car length for every 10mph you drive.
Murcotts Safe Driving Tip - 2 Second Rule - YouTube
I didn't assume. That's why I said "IF you can see...." Agree with you about the 2 seconds...
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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