How does SA Police Dept get away with FORCED DWI tests?

[majormadmax]

Just FYI, here are the top twenty cities with the highest DUI arrests for 2011...

City (Rank in 2010)
1. San Diego (1)
2. Los Angeles (7)
3. Indianapolis (6)
4. Jacksonville (10)
5. San Francisco (8)
6. Charlotte (3)
7. San Jose (2)
8. Fort Worth (14)
9. Columbus (5)
10. Phoenix (4)
11. Austin (9)
12. Dallas (12)
13. Houston (13)
14. New York (15)
15. Chicago (19)
16. San Antonio (11)
17. Philadelphia (17)
18. Memphis (16)
20. Detroit (20)

(Source)

Note that there are four other Texas cities ahead of San Antonio (Ft Worth, Austin, Dallas and Houston).

And California has a much bigger problem with it than Texas.

Not that is anything to be proud of, but I want to dispel the myth that SA has more drunks on the road than any other city in the state or the nation.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

Just FYI, here are the top twenty cities with the highest DUI arrests for 2011...

City (Rank in 2010)
1. San Diego (1)
2. Los Angeles (7)
3. Indianapolis (6)
4. Jacksonville (10)
5. San Francisco (8)
6. Charlotte (3)
7. San Jose (2)
8. Fort Worth (14)
9. Columbus (5)
10. Phoenix (4)
11. Austin (9)
12. Dallas (12)
13. Houston (13)
14. New York (15)
15. Chicago (19)
16. San Antonio (11)
17. Philadelphia (17)
18. Memphis (16)
20. Detroit (20)

(Source)

Note that there are four other Texas cities ahead of San Antonio (Ft Worth, Austin, Dallas and Houston).

And California has a much bigger problem with it than Texas.

Not that is anything to be proud of, but I want to dispel the myth that SA has more drunks on the road than any other city in the state or the nation.

Thank you for posting this but you and I both know that certain people will continue to say San Antonio has more drunk drivers than other places.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by MattTx

Thank you for posting this but you and I both know that certain people will continue to say San Antonio has more drunk drivers than other places.

Just trying to muddle their argument with some facts...

And I just noticed that the SAPD now has a Top Ten DWI Wanted list. Good on 'em for aggressively trying to bring these fugitives to justice!

No word that I've seen on how many people were arrested last night, but from the news reporting it seems like there weren't too many accidents!

Considering that there was an estimated 250,000 people celebrating downtown on New Year's Eve, hopefully all found alternate ways home if they had been drinking (as many of them appeared to have been!).

Cheers! M2

[Zembonez]

Originally Posted by MattTx

Thank you for posting this but you and I both know that certain people will continue to say San Antonio has more drunk drivers than other places.

MEH. Let em. The more people hate on Texas, the less we have to put up with them moving here. We've already been far too diluted by the Yanks and Californistanians. They "hate" us but they sure don't mind coming here for our jobs.

[L210]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

Just FYI, here are the top twenty cities with the highest DUI arrests for 2011...

City (Rank in 2010)
1. San Diego (1)
2. Los Angeles (7)
3. Indianapolis (6)
4. Jacksonville (10)
5. San Francisco (8)
6. Charlotte (3)
7. San Jose (2)
8. Fort Worth (14)
9. Columbus (5)
10. Phoenix (4)
11. Austin (9)
12. Dallas (12)
13. Houston (13)
14. New York (15)
15. Chicago (19)
16. San Antonio (11)
17. Philadelphia (17)
18. Memphis (16)
20. Detroit (20)

(Source)

Note that there are four other Texas cities ahead of San Antonio (Ft Worth, Austin, Dallas and Houston).

And California has a much bigger problem with it than Texas.

Not that is anything to be proud of, but I want to dispel the myth that SA has more drunks on the road than any other city in the state or the nation.

That list does not let the whole state of Texas off the hook.

Population:

California - 36,961,664 (2009)
Texas - 24,782,302 (2009)

Number of alcohol-impaired traffic fatalities (BAC of 0.08 or greater):

California - 791 (2010)
Texas - 1,259 and highest in the country (2010)

Percentage of total fatalities involving alcohol-impaired drivers:

California - 29%
Texas - 42% only behind North Dakota (44%) and South Carolina (44%)

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811554.pdf

The federal government also put Texas on a list of 10 states that are not doing enough to battle drunk driving.

Federal agency says Texas among worst states at preventing drunken driving fatalities | Dallas-Fort Worth Transportation News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News

Bexar County also had more DWI-related traffic deaths per 100,000 people than any other county in Texas in 2008. Hopefully, we have improved since then.

NO REFUSAL BLOOD DRAWS SPREAD

The number of DWI arrests is not only dependent upon the number of drunk drivers out there, but also the amount of enforcement. Although, I'd like to think that the "No Refusal Weekends" have deterred drunk drivers leading to a drop in the number of arrests. I know SAPD has been stepping up enforcement. Keep in mind that California also has sobriety checkpoints which can lead to a higher number of arrests.

By the way, the jobs thing is a myth and people keep on coming here based on that myth.

Texas unemployment rate 8.1%
National unemployment rate 8.6%

[steel7]

Our constitutional rights are limited now & you can blame the puke politicians for that. Its all about power. I DONT support drunk drivers though. They are pure scum.

[Huckleberry3911948]

if the officer thinks u have been drinking he has not violated your civil rights by checking.
he also has not violated your civil rights by asking u to stop at a sobriety check point.
public safety is part of his job.
your constitutional rights stop where public safety begins.
u do not have the constitutional right to run over children on the highway while drunk.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

if the officer thinks u have been drinking he has not violated your civil rights by checking.
he also has not violated your civil rights by asking u to stop at a sobriety check point.
public safety is part of his job.
your constitutional rights stop where public safety begins.
u do not have the constitutional right to run over children on the highway while drunk.

While I agree with most of the above, the Texas Supreme Court has ruled that random DWI checkpoints are an infringement of an individual's Fourth Amendment rights as there is no probable cause involved (State v. Holt, 887 S.W. 2d 16 (Tex. Cr. App. 1994)).

However, there is no violation of rights if someone is pulled over after there is any indication that they may have been drinking!

And I also agree, to complain about the police doing their job--especially when what they are doing is protecting all of us--is ludicrous!

Cheers! M2

[huckster]

I was looking at Craftsman riding mowers on you tube when I found this quite different violation of rights. being .
Steves Riding Lawn Mower DUI Arrest Video - YouTube

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

if the officer thinks u have been drinking he has not violated your civil rights by checking.
he also has not violated your civil rights by asking u to stop at a sobriety check point.
public safety is part of his job.
your constitutional rights stop where public safety begins.
u do not have the constitutional right to run over children on the highway while drunk.