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Old 04-26-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: West Des Moines, IA
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Why would "big downtown" be confused with Yankees anyway? New Orleans has a way larger skyline and is a much smaller town. Houston obviously has lots of buildings. Atlanta's got more tall stuff too. So what? Having more things in the city's core is a good thing though, because it saves more space for other stuff, like parks and recreational land, and farm/ranch land. The traffic wouldn't be as bad either. I'm fine with San Antonio either way, because I didn't move here just to see tall buildings congregated into one particular area. If new buildings go up in downtown, it'll be neat and I'll go check them out. If not, I won't go running to Austin just to be associated with tall pieces of glass and steel.

I prefer the hills and small mountains (in my opinion) of parts of the Hill Country anyway, especially when the wildflowers are out, more than tall buildings.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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A 24 story boutique hotel and Aloft hotel have both been approved. I large hotel attached to rivercenter mall has been proposed.
Thanks for answering the question
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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Yeah, downtown really, really, REALLY needs more hotels. That's exactly what downtown San Antonio is lacking. I am so glad more hotels will be built downtown.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:40 PM
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Yeah, downtown really, really, REALLY needs more hotels. That's exactly what downtown San Antonio is lacking. I am so glad more hotels will be built downtown.
We need hotels for the tourists to stay in, so they can pay the venue tax that builds sports arenas. Otherwise, local taxpayers pay for that.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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We need hotels for the tourists to stay in, so they can pay the venue tax that builds sports arenas. Otherwise, local taxpayers pay for that.
But that's not why more hotels are being built, nor do we "need" more hotels to house tourists. There are already plenty of hotel rooms downtown, and occupancy percentages are flat or slightly lower than before the Grand Hyatt was built. More hotels are being built because downtown property values are artificially inflated due to the tourist industry, and hotels are the only development that can be profitable. It's a feedback loop.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Speaking of the Grand Hyatt (or Grande Hyatt in local parlance), how is the occupancy rate for the condos in the top section of the building?

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Old 04-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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But that's not why more hotels are being built, nor do we "need" more hotels to house tourists. There are already plenty of hotel rooms downtown, and occupancy percentages are flat or slightly lower than before the Grand Hyatt was built. More hotels are being built because downtown property values are artificially inflated due to the tourist industry, and hotels are the only development that can be profitable. It's a feedback loop.
Blame the city powers that be, then. They set civic priorities. If they wanted more apartments downtown, they'd cultivate and approve apartment projects. ATM, it seems they'd rather have more tourists downtown.

FWIW, downtown housing is one of the mayor's SA 2020 goals. So a shift in priorities is coming, if his plan materializes. I've never heard it said that more office space is a goal for downtown.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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Blame the city powers that be, then. They set civic priorities. If they wanted more apartments downtown, they'd cultivate and approve apartment projects. ATM, it seems they'd rather have more tourists downtown.

FWIW, downtown housing is one of the mayor's SA 2020 goals. So a shift in priorities is coming, if his plan materializes. I've never heard it said that more office space is a goal for downtown.
More hotels does not mean more tourists, and the "city powers that be" do not set property values, the "invisible hand of the market" does.
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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One thing I did notice in Austin that they are building a lot of inner city condo's in the hoods around the downtown area like -SOCO, East Side, etc. SA has not built S, I just don't get iwhat the world this city is doing in that department. Can you imagine these types of projects happening on Guadalupe St, ArtDeco or the Eastside.

By the way SA skyline sucks compared to other cities. Still stuck in the 1950's
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:25 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I just hope the plans call for a modern look with glass or something. There's too much brown downtown lol
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