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Old 06-18-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Powell, Oh
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Originally Posted by plwhit View Post
Yeah, lets forget the fact that trained medical personnel with all the equipment needed for emergency life support came to your house within minutes and transported your son to the hospital in a vehicle that could sustain his life...

Oh those greedy people
I understand that they provided a necessary service. I suppose I am more frustrated that my insurance didn't cover it all. We always (as a society) pay more than we think. Ambulance ride, anesthesia, etc.

I pay thousands a year in insurance.

Don't take my post the wrong way, I am thankful.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Austin
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And you need to pay for services rendered.
Yes, no one works for free.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Our health care system is a mess! I will be the first to say that. But you get a team of EMT's coming to your home on the double - they have all the equipment and training to take care of you, no matter what they find, expect to pay them for it! Even a physician's office visit would easily cost you $100. And if you think the EMTs are getting all that $100, think again.
Agreed! Why do people just expect this service for free??
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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they are seen faster in that they don't have to sit and wait in the waiting room for hours. They are taken to the back where the treatment happens when they are brought in by ambulance. I know that from experience.
Given your experience, you then understand how a triage system works within the hospital setting. (..."don't have to sit and wait in the waiting room for hours...") I will respectfully disagree.

Although you will be brought directly to the intake / Nurse's station, it is at this point that your overall presentation and medical urgency will be gauged and even compared to the medical complaints of others waiting in the ER. Sure there are exceptions that can take place (empty ER waiting room, medical presentation which deems direct patient care, etc) which results in immediate care when brought in by an ambulance. However, a standard process that equates automatic care by a doctor so as to bypass the waiting room, simply because you had an ambulance bring you in, is non-existent.

If a patient has a medical complaint and wishes to be seen rapidly by a doctor in the ER for treatment and calls EMS just so they don't have to wait is ridiculous. If that patient's vitals are stable (non-life threatening) then that person should expect to be directed to the waiting room. Heaven forbid that a real emergency arises and an ambulance is not available because someone couldn't be bothered to "wait".
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Agreed! Why do people just expect this service for free??
It happens for free up in Canada thanks to socialized medical care.

But...

- payment for the services is hidden in the form of taxes which is higher in Canada
to pay for the universal coverage.

- every Canadian citizen qualifies for medical care regardless of their financial or
employment status.

My mom lives in Canada. Several years ago she had an EMS trip to the hospital
and hip surgery for a broken hip. No bill, no insurance company to deal with.

Recently she had surgery to remove a small breast lump and is currently undergoing
radiation. Again... no bill, no insurance company to deal with. All paid for and taken
care of by the government.

Move to Canada... where you an expect higher taxes but medical services for free.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Powell, Oh
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Move to Canada... where you an expect higher taxes but medical services for free.
No such thing as a free lunch, eh?
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Old 06-18-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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It happens for free up in Canada thanks to socialized medical care.

But...

- payment for the services is hidden in the form of taxes which is higher in Canada
to pay for the universal coverage.

- every Canadian citizen qualifies for medical care regardless of their financial or
employment status.

My mom lives in Canada. Several years ago she had an EMS trip to the hospital
and hip surgery for a broken hip. No bill, no insurance company to deal with.

Recently she had surgery to remove a small breast lump and is currently undergoing
radiation. Again... no bill, no insurance company to deal with. All paid for and taken
care of by the government.

Move to Canada... where you an expect higher taxes but medical services for free.
You failed to mention that under the *wonderful* Canadian system some people die while waiting for their turn to come up for surgery......

Not to mention: (article is a couple of years old)...

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The average wait time for a Canadian awaiting surgery or other medical treatment is now 18.3 weeks, a new high

"Canadians wait longer than Americans, Germans, and Swedes for cardiac care, although not as long as New Zealanders or the British," it reads. "Economists attempting to quantify the cost of this waiting time have estimated it to amount to $1,100 to $5,600 annually per patient."
Wait times for surgery, medical treatments at all-time high: report - Health - CBC News
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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My wife had ulcerative colitis, and then had the surgery to remove her colon, and now the doctor is saying she has Crohn's, so she is just having a rough time of all of this.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I understand that they provided a necessary service. I suppose I am more frustrated that my insurance didn't cover it all. We always (as a society) pay more than we think. Ambulance ride, anesthesia, etc.

I pay thousands a year in insurance.

Don't take my post the wrong way, I am thankful.
I think it important here for ANYONE that calls EMS to understand that the vehicle, personnel and equipment NEEDED to keep someone alive is being "called upon" regardless of YOUR particular level of need should be considered.....EMS is a "LIFE SAVING" call that we can expect to respond when minutes count.....NOT a taxi service to a Dr Apt for those without transportation......TRUST ME....in these days of budget cutting and financial needs...if you are NOT willing to pay for it, you will soon be WITHOUT IT!
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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My wife had ulcerative colitis, and then had the surgery to remove her colon, and now the doctor is saying she has Crohn's, so she is just having a rough time of all of this.
I hope she starts feeling better soon, I'm sure that has been a difficult adjustment for her.
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