06-26-2012, 02:58 AM
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I know this is an odd question and a long post, but I want to gain a lot of evidence to refute an A/C tech's claims.
I have never, ever lived in an apartment where the A/C was incapable of cooling below 75 degrees in 95+ degree weather. If there were issues, the unit was fixed or replaced. When it started getting hot in May, the townhome I just moved into not too long ago stayed at 78-79 degrees in the evening. The A/C was also leaking near the filter. I have my thermostat set on 73. I contacted the off-site management and they told me to call the A/C repair company they contract with directly.
A tech came out and said he fixed the leak. He also told me there was nothing wrong with my A/C and that all air conditioners were struggling right now. He claims to live in a brand new house where the A/C cannot cool below 76 on the extra hot days. He told me to call back if it reached 82. Well, it reached 81 later on that day and I thought it was enough to make him come back out. So, he came back out and said my coil needed to be cleaned and I had to wait for someone to come back out to clean it. A few days passed and someone did come to clean it. A couple of days after that, I came home to a couch that was soaking wet and water dripping from a vent above it. I opened up the A/C closet door to find that it was dripping worse than it was before and the carpet next to it was wet. So, I called them out AGAIN. I got the same tech I got the first time and he fixed the leak.
In passing, he said that it seemed like my air conditioner was cooling better; however, it only got up to the lower 90s that day. I told him I'm waiting for the coming 100 degree weather and he made the same excuse. "Everyone's A/C is struggling, even mine." All I know is that my neighbor's A/C was not working at all a couple of weeks ago and he said a couple of other people were complaining. All of the junk in my A/C closet is practically held together by tape and the whole thing looks older than I am. I am frustrated because my townhome stayed at 81 degrees all evening today and my electric bill was $189 for last month. It wasn't even summer yet and my place is less than 800 sq ft. I found that to be unusually high and figured it was due to the A/C struggling and running non-stop all day.
If you could please help me out with confirmation that I am not being unreasonable, I would greatly appreciate it. A few people I know told me the A/C company is either trying to take the owner for a ride or that the owner told them that he does not want to pay to replace it. Another guy also told me that if the technician's house really wasn't cooling below 76 degrees, his unit is too small for his house and that a certified HVAC tech should know that. Either these people are highly incompetent or they're bs-ing me.
06-26-2012, 05:50 AM
Location: San Antonio
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My home is seven years old and 2900. My house I keep about 77 in the evening to sleep and during the day around 80 since we aren't there. A lot of the times it doesn't come on too much during the day. I can say my electric bill is normally around the $250 range during the summer months. I did put in the radiant barrier roof when we built the house which I know this does make a difference because a neighbor who has the same house their electric bill would be about $100 more a month but they kept their house more like 75 degrees. I always had to take a sweater when I went to their house.
I know that my house will get cooler then 77 degrees though since if we have company I will turn the temperature down since I know others have a difference comfortable temperature then myself.
06-26-2012, 06:31 AM
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I have the ceiling fan going in my recreational room and two fans going in the bedroom where I sleep since it doesn't have a ceiling fan. I put dark curtains on all of the windows and I leave the bedroom and bathroom doors open, which drops the temperature one degree by increasing circulation. I don't mind 80 degrees when I'm awake, but I sleep during the hottest part of the day. It doesn't matter because I don't want to pay $200+ a month just because my A/C does not work well. If May-June was $189, I'm expecting $250 for July and August.
Thank you for the responses. The townhomes were built in 1984 and I think my unit has the original air conditioner making it older than me. LOL. I'm going to turn in a written complaint to the management company later on today.
06-26-2012, 09:20 AM
Location: Mid South Central TX
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We keep ours at 75 when home, about 82 when not. Ours runs well, but in at the hottest part of the say (around 4-5:30), sometimes it creeps up. Our unit is 11 years old, but the coils were changed out about 3 years ago. Your unit sounds like it's old, and on it's last legs. And the water issue can't be good!
06-26-2012, 09:41 AM
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Basically, if you have enough tonage in your condenser to power the system, you can and will cool down any space of any size.
When I moved into my current space, I was running 4 tons of AC with an old air handler (inside unit, about 25 years old). $15k later, I've got 8 tons of AC (a commercial unit), redone ducting and a brand new handler that can keep my nearly 5k square feet of space ice cold. I keep it at 73 almost all of the time and the AC handles it fine, cycling on and off as it needs to.
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06-26-2012, 09:51 AM
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I keep thermostat set at 74 day and night. My unit used to struggle quite a bit. But then in December 2010, I took advantage of a tax credit and did additional blown-in insulation all throughout my attic. After the tax credit and even with last summer's heat, it has more than paid for the materials and rental--my bills last summer were the lowest in the 7 years I have owned my home.
I know this doesn't necessarily help your current issue, but before I added the insulation, my unit used to have trouble staying at the set temperature on days like Sunday and yesterday. And my unit was installed new in 2006. Now it keeps up like a champ.
06-26-2012, 11:02 AM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I keep my AC at 72. Sometimes during the hottest days it will be a little warmer than that. The highest my electric bill has been in this house is $180...and that was when we had the cold snap winter before last. My AC is three years old, I have double paned windows, blown insulation and the radiant barrier. I also have pieces of foam set over the windows that face west, to block out the worst of the heat, and I have blackout curtains and thermal curtains layered over those windows as well.
I've lived in apartments that had bad air conditioners before. The water issue can happen when there's a hole in the drip pan, the line is blocked, or the indoor part of the AC is not level (if the building has settled enough that the AC is tipped). Running all the time and not cooling enough happens when the equipment is old. I had electric bills get up to $300 in the summertime. I also had it so hot in that same apartment that the kids had to wear nothing but underwear or get a rash, and when I tried to cook, sweat dripped off of me and made the floor slick. I did finally get the complex management to replace that air conditioner...at the end of October, and in March that apartment developed plumbing problems that forced us to move, so we never got to take advantage of the good AC.
If yours is cooling down to 75, you may not be able to get the complex management to repair it. They don't usually care how high your electric bills are.
06-26-2012, 11:12 AM
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Hrmmm. I've never even set mine below 78F. Usually it's at 80 during the day, higher if we're out. Sometimes at night at 78. We run ceiling fans in most rooms. House is 1600 SF and 100+ years old (with reasonable but not perfect insulation and single pane windows), A/c was put in new in 2005. No problems getting it to 78, but since I've never tried to go much lower than that (unless we're having a party, but then the door is open so often it doesn't help), not sure what's normal. I do know that in the winter on the few days it got below freezing, if the heat has been off all day, it doesn't warm up much above 65... I think I'd need a sweater on if it's 72 in the house. I usually wear shorts and tanks in the summer. So 80 is comfortable.
06-26-2012, 11:23 AM
Location: Mid South Central TX
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The water issue could also be a clogged drain pipe. We had that happen a few weeks ago. If you can find the opening, you can pour bleach to clear the line. Hopefully, this will help.
06-26-2012, 12:48 PM
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Thank you again for all of the responses. My apartment is now at 78 degrees and I expect it to get up to 81 in a couple of hours and stay that way until at least after 9pm. In 100+ degree weather, my A/C is not capable of cooling below 78. I really don't know if these townhomes are well insulated. They haven't been kept up well. Every building has roofing and plumbing issues.
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People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)