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Old 07-18-2012, 11:19 PM
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Since Chaka brought us up, we live over here in "edgy" Alta Vista. We have two children (ages 5 and 12) and know many professional families who live here and more that are moving in. We are definitely a neighborhood for artists (many live here and we also have the Hausmann Millworks), the houses are still affordable and we have some amazing architecture, we have a great location (pretty much in the center of everything), and we're within walking distance of some excellent private schools. I wish we had a charter school like Bonham that served our direct area, but we haven't reached that tipping point yet. We also have San Pedro Park and quite a range of types of people that live in the neighborhood.

We're in 78212, but that zip covers a lot of ground.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xsa210tx View Post
However, you will quickly be turned off by their entitled "09er" attitudes. Their thing is having that entitled mindset that they are privileged and if you don't meet their "cookie-cutter" kind of family type, you will realize that it wasn't the *best* place to choose and you will likely regret a move to AH.
Wow...Inner-Loop on Inner-Loop bashing now...has it gone this far? The only people I have ever heard use the term "09ers" are people that DON'T live there.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:50 AM
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Depends on how you define "diverse". Lol. Not the first thing that comes to mind when it comes to SA.

Good luck on your relocation.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:19 PM
Location: San Antonio
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Originally Posted by Chaka View Post
Some, but they are waaaaay outnumbered by the "No Socialism" signs.

I do know a number of very liberal minded folks in AH, and young families, but overall, it's old money, old San Antonio reputation has a solid basis in reality.

BN answered well, but I'll add - kind of. There's a great deal of new blood in King William. They often butt heads with the old guard. But keep in mind even many of those "newcomers" have been there 10-15 years. They tend to have young families ("young" family in Southtown usually means parents in their lates 30s-late 40s and some 50s with small kids) and tend to be more progressive thinking in terms of neighborhood dynamics and development, not necessarily politics (no comment on that). The folks who have control of the KWA seem a world apart from most residents I know. They seem to be a very small group who somehow seem to maintain a stranglehold on the association. They're not interested in the neighborhood school or neighborhood businesses, they tend to want the neighborhood to be a museum and they have strong ties with the HDRC. That all said, the neighborhood is full of progressive, dynamic people, many working to make changes and make the KWA reflective of the whole neighborhood, but they're also busy professionals raising families (as opposed to old money retirees). Still, they put in a lot of time and effort to keep the old guard on their toes.

Re: diversity mentioned in another post (apologies for not doing a multi-quote) - diversity can mean a lot of things - socioeconomic, cultural/ethnic, academic...etc. Reality is, that most of San Antonio, with a few exceptions, is predominantly 2 cultures: Hispanic and northern European, and Southtown is not the exception. Southtown has people representing other cultures, but there's no real ethnic enclave. It's reasonably diverse socioeconomically, though that is changing somewhat with gentrification. Many of our neighbors are long time residents (3rd++ generations), mostly blue collar folks, but many of the newcomers are high end professionals - bankers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT etc (by "high end" I mean academically, not necessarily economically...). But there's still a large proportion of artists and architect types - and teachers - who helped establish Southtown as an artsy mecca in San Antonio.

As for the gay population - San Antonio has a high population of gay families, many in the suburbs. But Southtown has a much higher proportion (maybe every 4th house or so, just based on whom I know in my neighborhood, that's not a scientific analysis). A friend visiting joked "do you have to be gay to live in your neighborhood?" because so many people she met when here were gay.

There are a number of near-downtown neighborhoods that may appeal to the OP, most mentioned already. I'll also add Dignowity Hill Where I Live: Dignowity Hill | The Rivard Report (tho again, schools are an issue).
and more -
Where I Live: The Judson Candy Factory Lofts | The Rivard Report
“Young, Educated, and Happy in San Antonio” | The Rivard Report
The Rivard Report has many articles on this topic, but you can also find similar stories in other publications.

And more on Southtown

Welcome to Southtown by Cinema Toast - YouTube

This is My Neighborhood: Southtown - YouTube

The Mayor of Southtown - YouTube

On schools - Bonham and Hawthorne are great. But overall, school is what you make it. I'm not so worried because, as parents, we have a significant input into our child's education and many of these neighborhoods are doing what Bonham parents did - transforming their local schools. If we ever decide to take our children out of the public system, it will have more to do with the entire system than just one school (i.e. we wouldn't send them to an NEISD or AHISD school either).

I personally share a lot about Southtown because of course I love it, but also it's because that's where I know the best of the near-downtown neighborhoods. I have lived in the suburbs so I know a few, and I have friends in many other neighborhoods throughout town. I'm biased, but I also won't try to say too much about the other neighborhoods because there are others here who have more first hand information.

YESSSS! I won't complain about it either!
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:50 PM
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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Wow...Inner-Loop on Inner-Loop bashing now...has it gone this far? The only people I have ever heard use the term "09ers" are people that DON'T live there.
Our "fiesta" event is called party time in '09. So yes we call ourselves '09er with some tounge in cheek.
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