08-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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The stripe is the mark....whether you like it or not doesn't matter. Perhaps it'll serve to remind you that the speed limit is supposed to be obeyed regardless of your personal feelings about the way they're marked.
08-28-2012, 10:53 PM
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en28so
$320. What I don't get is how can he look at his radar while riding the motorcycle in heavy traffic on the opposite side of the road? He was coming towards me. I was still in the school zone when I sped up, but I didn't know, since where the school zone ends is marked by this stupid white lane that runs across the street that is old and barely visible. Why not just put a sign that says "end of school zone" instead? I some schools don't even have any sings whatsoever as to where the school zone ends, only where it begins. I am probably going to go to court and point out all these flaws to the judge, and try to get the ticket dismissed or at least reduced. I don't want to be an easy target. He told me "good luck on your first day of college" after giving me the ticket. Yeah, I am so lucky. Thanks.
Ah, I see, you lied to us. (and you still are, which I will get to) You besmirched an Officer and flat out lied to us.
To point out some more problems, you have no idea when and where the (an) Officer observed you violating the law. It might not even be the Officer that pulled you over. BTW, it is the Officers job to know the roads, know the rules, operate his equipment and catch violators. Sounds like he did his job.
Another problem is, you now "know" you were speeding in the school zone, but didnt know? because the line is "old" and "barely visable"...so which is it? You just admitted you knew you were in a school zone and know exactly where it ended.
BTW, You can bet there was Legal warning, which included a sign.
Texas Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices
Section 7B.15 School Speed Limit Assembly
You can look it up but the law says there must be a sign at the end.
You would get torn to shreds in court.
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08-28-2012, 11:03 PM
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I pass that way every day (by Taft HS) and the school zone is clearly marked. You may have some chance of a reduced fine if you go to court, but who knows. In the end, I bet you'll be a lot more careful going through school zones!
08-28-2012, 11:07 PM
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Good luck en28so. I think for you to have any chance of success, you'd need to bring proof that you were out of the school zone, and from the posts in this thread, it's not clear if you were. Bringing photographs of a barely visible line, COMBINED with photographs that show you are 1. past the school and 2. past the point where any children could possibly be, may help with a not guilty verdict, but even that is a bit unlikely.
My Bexar County experience from January 2012 (from
this thread ) came back this week, as the officer finally turned in the ticket, 8 months later.
I'll be calling the courthouse soon to make sure the not guilty plea I mailed in back in January still applies, and I'll let you know in this thread how the experience goes.
If you choose to fight this in court, please update the thread. I haven't been able to find any descriptions online of how this goes, and that would be extremely useful to see.
08-28-2012, 11:50 PM
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Sorry, but I completely agree with smuboy... You are admitting that you sped up while you were still in the school zone... You were in the wrong... I understand that the line that ends the school zone was hard to see, but it was visible enough for you to see when you looked for it...
08-29-2012, 12:48 AM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I think the OP owes the officer a public apology on here...
08-29-2012, 03:58 AM
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Drzy
Good luck en28so. I think for you to have any chance of success, you'd need to bring proof that you were out of the school zone, and from the posts in this thread, it's not clear if you were. Bringing photographs of a barely visible line, COMBINED with photographs that show you are 1. past the school and 2. past the point where any children could possibly be, may help with a not guilty verdict, but even that is a bit unlikely.
My Bexar County experience from January 2012 (from
this thread ) came back this week, as the officer finally turned in the ticket, 8 months later.
I'll be calling the courthouse soon to make sure the not guilty plea I mailed in back in January still applies, and I'll let you know in this thread how the experience goes.
If you choose to fight this in court, please update the thread. I haven't been able to find any descriptions online of how this goes, and that would be extremely useful to see.
I can't believe the cop turned in the ticket 8 months later. Hopefully you can still fight it, I know I would.
The poor OP is already been torn to shreds in this thread before he goes to court.
08-29-2012, 06:14 AM
Location: San Antonio TX
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OK, I apologize to the officer and to you guys. Maybe I am just being a hot head. Just so many things going on in my life at the same time. Truth is, I didn't know how the end of school zones are marked. I do go through one school off Grissom that there's absolutely no mark where the school zone ends. That's what bothers me about some of the school zones. I didn't speed up like a demon either, just from 35 to about 40 (posted limit for school zone in Taft is 35)
08-29-2012, 06:22 AM
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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It's all good...sometimes, in the heat of the moment we don't really think about what we're sayin'. Then we end up going back and it's like "No - I didn't REALLY say
that , did I??"
(voice of experience here)
There ARE different ways of marking ends of school zones - many of 'em are announced by a speed limit sign "returning" you to the previous speed. I'll also watch the opposing lane signage for a school zone speed limit in the other direction. Bottom line - it's on us to ensure the legal speed for the location we're in. And that's not always as easy as it sounds - so when in doubt, I run the lower speed. Slows me down, but it's still faster (and cheaper) than a ticket stop!
08-29-2012, 06:49 PM
Location: West Creek
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Get deferred save yourself the headache and pay attention next time. I got a ticket for speeding 2 mph over. Early this year on Talley rd. I have a CDL so I'm not offered any options. I was doing 42 in a 45 mph zone as soon as I crossed the 40 dps lights started flashing. So I nailed him on a technicality because he clocked me before the 40mph sign. Long story short I was being an ass and rubbed it all over his face on the way out.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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