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Old 11-15-2012, 10:57 AM
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Location: Ohio
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The funding issue was created to force us to accept tolling. Folks, wake up, smell the coffee - and start turning out the lawmakers that allow this to happen! By ignoring and allowing congestion to become progressively worse, this state has made toll roads an acceptible (and VERY profitable) business venture. 30 years ago, even the MENTION of a toll road put folks up in arms.
I agree that the current bunch in Austin are responsible for the highway situation and that voting them out could fix highway funding.

Highway funding does not seem to be an issue that people care enough to base their decision on politicians over, though.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Highway funding does not seem to be an issue that people care enough to base their decision on politicians over, though.
Quite true....but if folks would finally realize that doing us over via toll roads means they'll ALSO do us over on other things, maybe they'd finally come to the realization that it's time to do some SERIOUS house-cleaning.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:05 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX (78201)
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The funding issue was created to force us to accept tolling. Folks, wake up, smell the coffee - and start turning out the lawmakers that allow this to happen! By ignoring and allowing congestion to become progressively worse, this state has made toll roads an acceptible (and VERY profitable) business venture. 30 years ago, even the MENTION of a toll road put folks up in arms.
Diversion of funding, redirection of money set aside for improvements - THAT is why we have the lousy traffic situation. There's no good reason that TXDOT hasn't kept up with traffic growth....until you follow the money!
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I finally drove up to use the interchange about an hour ago! Let me tell you that it really is beautiful and huge. However, I'm soooo glad that I will not have to use it very often because there was still a ton of traffic going north on 281. One thing that I did notice was that the exit ramps to 1604 E/W were left exits instead of right...which may cause problems in the future

Oh! And it would've been so neat to use the same color scheme as the 281/410 interchange but hey, can't do anything about it now. Just glad the project is almost done for the sake of the commuters on that side of town. Let's get the southbound ramps up now!
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I finally drove up to use the interchange about an hour ago! Let me tell you that it really is beautiful and huge. However, I'm soooo glad that I will not have to use it very often because there was still a ton of traffic going north on 281. One thing that I did notice was that the exit ramps to 1604 E/W were left exits instead of right...which may cause problems in the future

Oh! And it would've been so neat to use the same color scheme as the 281/410 interchange but hey, can't do anything about it now. Just glad the project is almost done for the sake of the commuters on that side of town. Let's get the southbound ramps up now!
Out of curiosity, how/why would it cause problems in the future? They built it the way they did because it was cheaper & quicker.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Out of curiosity, how/why would it cause problems in the future? They built it the way they did because it was cheaper & quicker.
281 has four lanes going north. Left lanes are for fast moving traffic. There are two left exit lanes dedicated to 1604 E/W. Now let's say there's an accident (or just a lot of rush hour traffic for that matter) on 1604 where traffic is backed up far, far enough to where traffic onto the interchange is backed up. The backed-up 1604 traffic would eventually mess with the flow of 281 traffic going north because the left lanes would be backed up.

I don't think I've seen a 5 stack interchange with left exit lanes.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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I don't think I've seen a 5 stack interchange with left exit lanes.

How about the I35 exit from 10E; its a left exit
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Now let's say there's an accident (or just a lot of rush hour traffic for that matter) on 1604 where traffic is backed up far, far enough to where traffic onto the interchange is backed up. The backed-up 1604 traffic would eventually mess with the flow of 281 traffic going north because the left lanes would be backed up.
Wait a second. This would be planning ahead and the folks who build in SA do not think that way. LOL.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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How about the I35 exit from 10E; its a left exit
True but that interchange isn't stacked 5 times and the two left exit lanes continue with I35 so there's no traffic merging into existing lanes.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I finally drove up to use the interchange about an hour ago! Let me tell you that it really is beautiful and huge. However, I'm soooo glad that I will not have to use it very often because there was still a ton of traffic going north on 281. One thing that I did notice was that the exit ramps to 1604 E/W were left exits instead of right...which may cause problems in the future

Oh! And it would've been so neat to use the same color scheme as the 281/410 interchange but hey, can't do anything about it now. Just glad the project is almost done for the sake of the commuters on that side of town. Let's get the southbound ramps up now!
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Out of curiosity, how/why would it cause problems in the future? They built it the way they did because it was cheaper & quicker.
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281 has four lanes going north. Left lanes are for fast moving traffic. There are two left exit lanes dedicated to 1604 E/W. Now let's say there's an accident (or just a lot of rush hour traffic for that matter) on 1604 where traffic is backed up far, far enough to where traffic onto the interchange is backed up. The backed-up 1604 traffic would eventually mess with the flow of 281 traffic going north because the left lanes would be backed up.

I don't think I've seen a 5 stack interchange with left exit lanes.
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Wait a second. This would be planning ahead and the folks who build in SA do not think that way. LOL.
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In a change from the preliminary schematics, the exit for Loop 1604 will now be a left-exit from northbound 281. This was done to preserve the existing exit ramp at Henderson Pass, eliminate the need to relocate utilities along the frontage road as well as having to relocate/widen the frontage road itself, and eliminate the need to reconstruct the existing retaining wall. Overall, this will shave $5 million off the project and modestly shorten the construction timeline.
The San Antonio Area Freeway System - Project Info: US 281/Loop 1604 Interchange
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