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Old 11-09-2012, 07:46 AM
 
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Loop 1604 - U.S. 281 interchange opens - San Antonio Express-News

Has anyone used this yet? Glad it is finally here but should have been here decades ago. Now letís get to work on the north side going south linking to 1604.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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I will tomorrow on my way to get my ears lowered.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:51 AM
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Now let’s get to work on the north side going south linking to 1604.
As the article says, that has to wait until the Federal environmental studies are complete.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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Heard yesterday on the news that the north to south exchange environmental impact study won't be finished until 2014! Had also heard that the still unresolved final design of 281 north of 1604 will limit or stop the north to south exchange. Doesn't sound like it's going to be anytime soon.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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I live at 281/Evans and went downtown last night and the traffic on 281 north was backed up pretty much to 410, on the way back home I noticed that the ramps were open to get on 1604 for either direction and was surprised that even with them open the 281 north traffic was still crazy!
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I drive the 281 corridor every day as part of my commute. Northbound 281 has several problems that will only be slightly improved by the new ramp opening:

1) 281/410 - The ramp coming from 410 to 281N has two lanes (one from 410E main lanes and the other from 410W access road). The merge point for the two lanes is anywhere from halfway up the ramp to the point where the ramp officially merges with 281N. This becomes a choke point that backs traffic all the way up the ramp and onto 410W.

2) 281/Bitters - The entrance ramp from the access road (just after Bitters) congests traffic beyond Bitters (to just past the airport runway light "bridge"). This seems to be, in large part, due to people slowing down as traffic merges onto 281N in a very short distance. The problem is made worse by people (like me) who jump off 281N at the Bitters exit, hug the left lane, and merge back onto 281N without hitting the Bitters intersection. (It's a easy way to shave 3-5 minutes off my commute.)

3) 281/1604 - Yes, there are traffic delays from people actually trying to get onto 1604 from 281N, but once you pass the exit ramp for 1604 the traffic is all folks who want to continue going north on 281. Traffic is often backed up from TPC/Stone Oak Parkway to just past the 281/1604 interchange. This issue has nothing to do with 1604, but is a problem caused by traffic merging together just past Sonterra Blvd. (before Redland Road) and the well-known traffic lights all the way up to TPC/Stone Oak Pkwy.

While I applaud the efforts made to make things easier on those trying to get on/off 1604 to 281, it doesn't solve the bigger problems:

1) Traffic-lighted intersections on 281N through Stone Oak Parkway.
2) Too much traffic trying to use entrance ramps that are either poorly-designed or too short for normal traffic volume

--Dim
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Whomever designs these new ramps for the city is a dolt: Every major new interchange built in San Antonio over the last 10 years (I10/410, 281/1604) has been completely antiquated by the time it's opened. It's as if they didn't expect the city to continue to grow, so they didn't even look at the possibility of making things a bit larger than normal to handle greater capacity. Whoever 'they' are that design, they certainly don't seem like locals.

ALL of the interchanges are still nightmares. Isn't this construction supposed to ultimately help things out and not just add to the mess?



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Old 11-09-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Whomever designs these new ramps for the city is a dolt: Every major new interchange built in San Antonio over the last 10 years (I10/410, 281/1604) has been completely antiquated by the time it's opened. It's as if they didn't expect the city to continue to grow, so they didn't even look at the possibility of making things a bit larger than normal to handle greater capacity. Whoever 'they' are that design, they certainly don't seem like locals.

ALL of the interchanges are still nightmares. Isn't this construction supposed to ultimately help things out and not just add to the mess?



BN

I think its has more to do with the existing roads that the interchanges drop into. Keep in mind if they had two lanes drop into 1604 which only has two lanes then that would create a huge mess with the merging. Look at the 410/10 interchange on the northwest side of town. They have three lanes turn into two half down to the freeway they then drop into a congested 4 lane freeway. 1604 would be well under way in terms of construction if it weren't for the Golden Cheeked Warbler.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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Whomever designs these new ramps for the city is a dolt
Totally agreed. If you have used the 635 and 75 interchange in Dallas, what we have down here is a joke and completely useless.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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Totally agreed. If you have used the 635 and 75 interchange in Dallas, what we have down here is a joke and completely useless.
Really? The high five in Dallas is gridlocked for during traffic time. It's also closed during the winter storms we get. There is no direct connector to the hov lanes on northbound 75 from northbound 75, yes you have to exit the freeway, then take a separate ramp from the access road to get onto the HOV. The interchanges in San Antonio at least move during traffic time.
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