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Old 11-30-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX (78201)
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TXDOT has acquired the $ to build 281 between 1604 & Stone Oak toll-free...

...too bad they can't build it till the new NEW NEW Environmental Study is complete. in 2014.
So thanks a lot Terri Hall. For nothing.

They also have the funds to build 1604 toll free from Bandera to Weisman. Again, same situation.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:47 AM
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...too bad they can't build it till the new NEW NEW Environmental Study is complete. in 2014.
So thanks a lot Terri Hall. For nothing.
If TURF hadn't slowed down the process by playing the environmental card, the road would exist, but it would be a toll road. IMO, Terri Hall did us a favor. She used the only remaining option to slow down the process. It's not her fault that environmental studies take 5 years.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I'll believe it when I see it. Where are the sources for these statements?
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:52 PM
 
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This is big news, guys
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX (78201)
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here's one

The San Antonio Area Freeway System - Tollway System

and no, Terri Hall screwed us over from the beginning, but no one wants to read up and know the facts about what they were actually planning to do to 281 and 1604
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:02 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Terri Hall may have inadvertently helped us this way, if it delayed the toll road & resulted in the current situation. However, I still think that these "environmentalists" are hypocritic fools. How many tons of CO2 & gallons of motor oil leaked out due to unnecessary traffic? The traffic's going to be there no matter what. Channelling it efficiently is what is needed to be done.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Thanks for this....eye opening for someone who recently moved here...what a long dragged out mess anyway you look at it!
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here's one

The San Antonio Area Freeway System - Tollway System

and no, Terri Hall screwed us over from the beginning, but no one wants to read up and know the facts about what they were actually planning to do to 281 and 1604
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 AM
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Terri Hall screwed us over from the beginning, but no one wants to read up and know the facts about what they were actually planning to do to 281 and 1604
San Antonio is an exception among large cities in Texas, in that a critical mass of influential people here would rather fight toll roads and accept traffic pain than accept toll roads. It's not just Terri Hall. It's Lyle Larson and Tommy Adkisson - people who've been elected to office multiple times in Bexar County.

TxDOT may have convinced you and the folks in other large cities that toll roads are the only option for expanding major highways, but it hasn't convinced everyone.

Let's just agree to disagree and not call either side uninformed.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Since this thread is about something SA doesn't have compared to other large Texas cities, I figure it would be appropriate to ask this:

Why doesn't San Antonio have HOV lanes on the highways? Since living here, I've traveled to Houston twice and Dallas once on business and I have taken note of this and wonder why my city doesn't have them. Could it be that citizens don't want them? TxDOT doesn't want to fund them?
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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TXDOT isn't building any new hov with out making them variable tolled lanes.
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