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Old 01-09-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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Ive always Imagined a complete lay out of SAN ANTONIO De Bexar circa 1836,with the compound that surronded the Alamo up to scale so that the visitors can actualy see how it really looked like and can see where all the fighting took place ,which was on top of the barricks,wooden palasdes on the south wall in front of the old mission where Crokett defended with his voluteers,the cannon placements on the north wall where Travis met his death.The 04 movie of the Alamo set in Dripping Springs was to scale .It'sunfortunate I didn't get set foot on it,but I heard that it was like stepping back in time.Can you imagine the History that visitors can take home and talk about to freinds and relatives.I Imagine this area being east of SAN ANTONIO with its gently rolling hills ,the Cibolo Creek being the SAN ANTONIO river.The Re-enactment could take place just as it did in 1836.I know that there would pleanty of folks that would participate in it.This way visitors can take home a memory that they would never forget,and not remember the ALAMO as "THats's it !,I thought it was much larger than that.Trust me, it would work.
The Alamo in another location would not do justice for me but I can always hold out for time travel to become a possibility. I always imagine this battle to and the sacrifices made on both sides. Also those who did not fight on either side but just lived in the area, they interest me the most.

They really need to restore the lower barracks and get rid of the tourists traps across the street.

There is not 100% agreement that Crockett was positioned or died as you claimed. No one should accept that as a fact. They can accept it as legend or folklore.
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It's all about the money……isn't it ….that's
If you want to have electricity, HVAC and running water in a building, the money has to come from somewhere. It'd also be a good idea to pay some security guards to keep Highschool Harry and his merry band of thugs from doing their vandalizing and thieving on the grounds at 2:00 AM.

Without money, the only option is to put up high fences and close the place off to everyone.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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All they gotta do is start selling knives to kids again in the gift shop. Maybe get PeeWee's bike in there and charge $5 to see it.

You're better off going to the Phil Collins shrine across the street anyway, make sure and tell the old crank running the place you're a liberal democrat if you really want to see some sparks fly.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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There is not 100% agreement that Crockett was positioned or died as you claimed. No one should accept that as a fact. They can accept it as legend or folklore.[/QUOTE]

At the Texas 150th Sesquicentennial Anniversary (1986) held in front of the
Alamo. Among the participants were descendants of David Crockett.
I spoke with them after the ceremony. They were very nice folks . Made
me feel comfortable enough to ask them if they had any more insight or
information brought down by the families as to the demise of their famous
ancestor.They told me " Back in those times ,
news or events took months before it was known".
He could have died fighting at the walls or captured & then executed".
Basically they echoed what you stated .
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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If you want to have electricity, HVAC and running water in a building, the money has to come from somewhere. It'd also be a good idea to pay some security guards to keep Highschool Harry and his merry band of thugs from doing their vandalizing and thieving on the grounds at 2:00 AM.

Without money, the only option is to put up high fences and close the place off to everyone.
ok…I got the hammer…you get the wood !
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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I appologize if my comments on David Crockett came off as true to fact,not so,no one really knows I was simply stating what I had read in a book by an Officer who's last name is DeLaPena who wrote of actual event's before ,during and after the 90min.battle.And as far as imagining the Alamo being in a different place, no way,only as an attraction to step back in time,like a movie set, like the OLD Tucson movie set ,or the now closed Brackettville movie set where the John Wayne movie," The Alamo" was made,which was great for its time,I've even visited the place.Where can you go now and teach our children Texas History as important as the Alamo,to see what was it was like to live in San Antonio in 1836.what the people went thru during this time of oppression,to actualy walk the streets,seeing a band of soldiers on horseback in full millitary uniform,its OK to imagine,it would be great if it came true.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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Supposedly, there were underground passages connecting one mission to
the others . These tunnels were used by missionaries in case of attacks by
hostile indians. I don't know if there is any validity to this.

Also with regards to this:

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" the Alamo's well proved inadequate in supplying the garrison's
water needs. This forced the defenders to obtain water from the acequia
and reservoir to the east of the compound setting the stage for several
skirmishes."
end quote.
When I was working @ Kwex on Durango St. I had to cover a story
on the east side of the Alamo past the Crockett Hotel. I don't recall what
the story was , but I do remember that there was a crew demolishing old
buildings for new business construction. I remember a dried passage way
like the acequias I have seen at the other missions . The stones were similar
to the ones at the Alamo . I picked one stone as a souvenir before the huge
caterpillars cleared them up. I was thinking that this might have been the
acequia water way that Santa Anna's soldiers tried to block from the Alamo.
So much history all around us , it's a pity that it's not saved !
Do you have any facts on SANTA ANNA of where on the Cibolc Creek,did he cross heading east after the fall of the Alamo.I know his army splintered, to north,north east and directly east to catch up to Sam Houston.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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Do you have any facts on SANTA ANNA of where on the Cibolc Creek,did he cross heading east after the fall of the Alamo.I know his army splintered, to north,north east and directly east to catch up to Sam Houston.
Hi Albert ,
I'm sorry I do not. But this might provide the answer.
There's a book I bought a while back called ,
"With Santa Anna in Texas" by Jose Enrique de la Pena.
While De la Pena was in Texas, fighting against the Alamo defenders,
he kept a diary which was not published until 1955. It was located by
J.Sanchez ,a researcher, & was then translated by DRT member
Ms. Carmen Perry.
I have an old copy of a diary that was written by James L.Trueheart.
He was captured by Mexican troops under the command of Adrian Woll.
During this period , he was held in Perote Prison. He kept a diary of the
events when the men were taken back to Mexico. It's interesting writing
with words & expressions that are not common today. The diary was
edited by Frederick C. Chabot & published in 1934 as "The Perote Prisoners".
James L.Trueheart was the grandfather of Annie Rose Trueheart .
Annie Rose was my wife's mother .

James L.Trueheart is buried in the original San Fernando Cemetery #1

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Old 01-13-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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I've also heard of a tunnel that suposedly starts at Nacogdoches at Cave Ln. where there is a large sink hole that leads down and into a tunnel that leads south.Any truth to that?I'd like to see that tunnel that leads to the Menger from the Alamo.
The Old brewery is under the kitchen. There is a double metal hatch in the floor that leads down to the basement. You will have to know someone pretty good that works there to get a tour.

As far as the batcave, i think they have tours from time to time.

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