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Old 01-09-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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The incredibly bias and sensational headline doesn't give ablreviewbof the ops political view

Private sector support for streetcar hasn't vanished. Support for a PID is what seems to have bottomed out. Big difference.

Also, money for the street cars isn't taking away money from pot holes or whatever things you incorrectly listed.

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Old 01-09-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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Didn't we vote against this a few years ago and they're trying to find a way to get it done anyway?
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:33 AM
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WOAI's Jim Forsyth thinks that support for the streetcar project is "drying up."

Support for Streetcar Project Slips Following 1200 WOAI News Report - NewsRadio 1200 WOAI, San Antonio

I'm not as convinced as he is, knowing that the only member of the council openly coming out against it now is also the only member who voted against the plan in the first place.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Rail makes ZERO sense in San Antonio. While rough on streets, bus service is more logical, since it can easily adapt to changes in rider traffic patterns.

THAT is a fact.
A fact is something empirically provable. You've given your opinion, which is something quite different. Here's an example:

FACT: It cost $131mm to construct the highway interchange at 281 & 1604.

OPINION: It makes ZERO sense to spend $131mm to subsidize existing low-density auto-dependent sprawl development.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I for one would like to see rail in this city... I mean if we had some rail... maybe it would take away some of the traffic which is creating the pot holes in our roads. I mean rail would do a few things for us to include less traffic on the road once it catches on. Bus service just plain and simply "SUCKS". If I could find some form of transportation that would get me from point A to point B in a relative amount of time (not 3 hours, which is what it would take me utilizing VIA) I would jump right on it and save my gas money for a rainy day. Some of you need to take your heads out of your dufflebags and start looking at bigger pictures instead of surrounding yourselves with nice smelly roses. (and that my friends is MY OPINION and not a fact)
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:15 PM
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I for one would like to see rail in this city... I mean if we had some rail... maybe it would take away some of the traffic which is creating the pot holes in our roads.
Jim Forsyth said that the streetcar project will cost $37 million per mile! That's a big investment and it's just the cost to build it. There will be a whole other set of costs to operate it.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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Didn't we vote against this a few years ago and they're trying to find a way to get it done anyway?
If by this, you mean street cars. No. And if by a few years you mean 12, well that's more than a few years.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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This city will see progress whether they want/like it or not. The old are dying out... Younger people with money are ready to step up and make sure this city actually goes somewhere.

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Old 01-09-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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A fact is something empirically provable. You've given your opinion, which is something quite different. Here's an example:

FACT: It cost $131mm to construct the highway interchange at 281 & 1604.

OPINION: It makes ZERO sense to spend $131mm to subsidize existing low-density auto-dependent sprawl development.
Good to have you back, dvlpr!

I'm not sure about the streetcars, but I hope they catch on. And I hope they run until the wee hours.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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FACT: It cost $131mm to construct the highway interchange at 281 & 1604.

OPINION: It makes ZERO sense to spend $131mm to subsidize existing low-density auto-dependent sprawl development.
Low-density?
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