Brookings Inst and Rockefeller Fnd recognize our Pre-K 4 SA program (San Antonio: low income, house)

[Merovee]

Originally Posted by Mom2Feebs

I live in San Antonio; I voted against it; I am not celebrating; you do not deserve any recognition.

The recognition has already been given by the Brookings Institution and the Rockefeller Foundation.

The purpose of this thread was not in soliciting your recognition.

[txtea]

Being recognized for a plan that has yet to materialize and be tested thru time? Having an idea and a plan on paper is one thing, but until this project has been in place for a few years, being recognized by any self important organization such as the ones named is pointless. Let's give it a few years and see what happens before we start patting ourselves on the back.

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by Merovee

The recognition has already been given by the Brookings Institution and the Rockefeller Foundation.

The purpose of this thread was not in soliciting your recognition.

What WAS the purpose of the thread, then? So everyone could drool over something that they don't like, didn't vote for, and haven't seen any benefit from?

[Merovee]

Originally Posted by txtea

Being recognized for a plan that has yet to materialize and be tested thru time? Having an idea and a plan on paper is one thing, but until this project has been in place for a few years, being recognized by any self important organization such as the ones named is pointless. Let's give it a few years and see what happens before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Your understanding is showing because there is something that the local and business leaders have and that Brookings relies on which your view does not have: evidence.

For San Antonio Mayor Julián Castro and a coalition of metropolitan leaders, including the city's largest chambers of commerce, retrenching even farther on education was an unacceptable threat to the regional economy. Given the city's lagging Pre-K enrollment—more than one-third of eligible four-year-old children are not enrolled in full day pre-K programs due in part to inadequate funding—and evidence that early childhood education has a large impact on student performance in secondary and tertiary school, regional leaders directed their focus on this phase of the educational system.

Innovations To Watch | Brookings Institution

Evidence, the kind based in academia, now there are those who are hostile to academia and studies: Anti-intellectualism.

It is predictable but not convincing that some would simply see this as just a plan on paper that has not materialized instead of the more realistic view of an already enacted policy that was informed through science. That is who I am going to trust not the modern equivalent of the Know-Nothing Party.

[Azure110]

That is not evidence. That is propaganda.

There is no evidence that exists that says this program is a success yet. (if it will even succeed)

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by Merovee

Your understanding is showing because there is something that the local and business leaders have and that Brookings relies on which your view does not have: evidence.

Innovations To Watch | Brookings Institution

Evidence, the kind based in academia, now there are those who are hostile to academia and studies: Anti-intellectualism.

It is predictable but not convincing that some would simply see this as just a plan on paper that has not materialized instead of the more realistic view of an already enacted policy that was informed through science. That is who I am going to trust not the modern equivalent of the Know-Nothing Party.

What? You really out did yourself with moronic post.

txtea said nothing about the importance of pre k. What you don't seem to grasp is we already have many programs for Pre-K and your bold phrase proves that to be so. Everyone in this thread is simply questioning why any award would be given to a program that has no track record of success.

How many kids has Pre-K for SA helped? None. Nada. Zilch.

[Merovee]

Originally Posted by rynetwo

What? You really out did yourself with moronic post.

txtea said nothing about the importance of pre k. What you don't seem to grasp is we already have many programs for Pre-K and your bold phrase proves that to be so. Everyone in this thread is simply questioning why any award would be given to a program that has no track record of success.

How many kids has Pre-K for SA helped? None. Nada. Zilch.

My post was adequate.

txtea stated there was no proof and that it is just a plan on paper. Brookings is commending our city for making a plan based on evidence.

As far as Pre-K programs that already exist, that is true but there are so many types of Pre-K including the daycare type that has a limited educational benefit. The type we are now getting is not replicating any other program out there.

Then there is the fact that the state took away funds so some of those other programs which might not even be operating still and this is taking up the slack.

Again the fact that you are asking, "how many kids has Pre-K for SA helped," adequately shows on which level you are approaching this, one that neglects the ability to appreciate how this is going to help our community.

Students who attend these type of Pre-Ks have shown to do better later in life. This is what our local leaders are going by endorsing it. It is an investment in community. Just because some have largely abandoned us, face it you don't feel like part of our community here, you like living in your enclave even if within city limits, you don't want to be one with us, your advice is to move away from us, but that does not mean we are going to abandon ourselves and we voted accordingly.

This line of questioning is not making our city or Brookings look bad at all but merely demonstrating of what caliber its (Pre-K 4 SA) opponents are, the type to not understand or appreciate scholarship.

[sapphire]

Sometimes I think Merovee is really Julian Castro.

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by sapphire

Sometimes I think Merovee is really Julian Castro.

I think Julian can even understand what we are trying to point out.

[Merovee]

Originally Posted by rynetwo

I think Julian can even understand what we are trying to point out.

This is like an African village getting a water well, but some will say what proof will the well save people, why build it? How many has it saved so far this "well"?

The fact that we know that wells can be built and help give people water we also know that education works and gives people power, not the type of power that takes from one just so another can have more, but true power which keeps growing to the more it is given too.

Pre-K has been shown to reduce crime in communities and allow others to do better scholastically later on. It is happening in our communities, it will help the whole city overall, and the region. Less crime and a better educated populace is the goal and we will work toward it.

Pre-K 4 SA is based on the fact that 5 cities in Texas, including ours, ranks in the lowest 15th percentile when it comes to 100 of our nations largest cities in producing high school graduates. This is a remedy based on education. There is nothing to be sorry about if you can't get the big picture but others do, those making decisions have, progress is here in San Antonio.