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Old 02-19-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I guess we are now feeling the effect of California transplants here. What comes next? A naked bike ride? I may be liberal but some of this "save the mother earth" hippie stuff is silly to me. I guess that makes me more moderate than liberal.

I have been reusing all the plastic bags I bring home. They make the best trash can liners.

As long you follow one of the three R's, you are helping the environment. Recycle, Reduce, or Reuse.
+1.

I remember years ago in the late 80's this liberal hippy chick that I knew used to cross her arms and furrow her brow every time I went to the store if I didn't specify plastic instead of paper bags.
She said I needed to ask for plastic so we would use less paper and save the trees.
Fast forward 25 years and here we are talking about banning plastic bags.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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Let's face it... We're destined to trash this earth no matter what we do. Read up on recycling programs. They're mainly cash-cows, aimed at making overly-concerned folks feel better about themselves while doing very little good. The best thing you can personally do is rewash and reuse, if possible.

While my statement is a blunt one, that's not to say I want to see earth turn into a garbage bin. Quite the contrary- but passing these silly laws, inviting more Government into our lives and layering rules on top of rules to the point of suffocating common sense seems ridiculous to me.
I agree with all of these comments. Most recycling programs have become jokes. Good intention, poor execution. While I believe that everyone wants to see a more ecologically sound planet, it's very rare to see smart innovation legislated.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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I agree with all of these comments. Most recycling programs have become jokes. Good intention, poor execution. While I believe that everyone wants to see a more ecologically sound planet, it's very rare to see smart innovation legislated.
AMEN! Let's all just pull out the checkbook and write a check to buy a few more "carbon credits".....and let those that are making money off of it crawl back into their private jet from their limo and fly out, money in hand.....

I SOOOOO remember when Robert Kennedy Jr was on FOX News Bill O'Rilley who asked him, "so did you take a commercial flight here or your private plane" after he had done his 3 minute spchell about how we all needed to do our part to "make a smaller footprint" on our planet.....he just himmed and hawwed for about 2 minutes refusing to answer!
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:31 PM
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+1.

I remember years ago in the late 80's this liberal hippy chick that I knew used to cross her arms and furrow her brow every time I went to the store if I didn't specify plastic instead of paper bags.
She said I needed to ask for plastic so we would use less paper and save the trees.
Fast forward 25 years and here we are talking about banning plastic bags.
Times change and best practices change. For most of the 20th Century, people thought it was a great idea to have X-ray machines in shoe stores.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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We should ban cigarettes because I always see those on the side of the road. Plus, a plastic bad never started a fire when the ground was dry.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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For all the simplistic comparisons of plastic bags to other types of litter there is a failure to recognize the impact plastic bags alone have on our drains, waterways, and wildlife.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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There are already laws against littering. Why don't we enforce them instead of adding more laws to the books?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:51 AM
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There are already laws against littering. Why don't we enforce them instead of adding more laws to the books?
Who do you cite when you see 50 plastic bags in a ditch by the side of the road?

If by happenstance an LEO happens to witness a pedestrian tossing a 51st bag in that ditch, is it really the best use of that officer's time to stop and spend the next 15 minutes issuing a citation for that? Keep in mind that the most litter-laden areas of the city also happen to be the highest crime areas.

I'm not sold on this solution, either. But I'm also not convinced that putting cops on the street to catch litterbugs is the best solution.

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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There are already laws against littering. Why don't we enforce them instead of adding more laws to the books?
I didn't realize so many would agree with the three R's rule I stated earlier but I can't take credit. The rule is usually taught in many environmental programs which is how I learned it and try to apply to all discared items at my house.

prim8 said it best.....Why can't we just enforce the existing laws against littering?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I didn't realize so many would agree with the three R's rule I stated earlier but I can't take credit. The rule is usually taught in many environmental programs which is how I learned it and try to apply to all discared items at my house.

prim8 said it best.....Why can't we just enforce the existing laws against littering?
Sometimes it's unintended. Walking around, I've seen plastics bags fly out of trash cans (the kind on public streets, no lids). I've also seen them fly out of trash trucks and most annoying, with the current trash collection system, I've seen the driver not have the arm/can directly over the opening, and all sorts of trash fly out into the street. Not just bags, but they are the easiest to fly as they're so light.

Definitely reduce and re-use (it takes our family of 4 a month to fill our garbage and recycling cans, we compost all organic waste at home), not using plastic bans is the first step in reduce and reusing.
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